SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Gold/Mining/Energy : Big Dog's Boom Boom Room -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: kingfisher who wrote (155536)8/16/2011 1:26:42 PM
From: ChanceIs1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 206183
 
>>>Do you foresee a time when Saudi Arabia and other middle east countries will give up on fiat money and barter oil for.....<<<

Absolutely. As you pointed out it has already started. A few other instances:

1) Saddam was doing it (oil for whatever barter) post GWI. That may be why "W" invaded.

2) Check me, but I think that Iran launched an oil bourse maybe six months ago.

3) I think that SDRs have already been called into existence. SDRs are "Special Drawing Rights." I don't understand them well. They might be issued by the Bank of International Settlements, or maybe the World Bank. I am of the opinion that an SDR is similar to a basket of the leading currencies - ergo a currency unto itself.

4) It might be done in gold, but that is difficult to handle - is not liquid. Some who take gold for oil will be likely to "hoard" the gold afterwards instead of keeping it in "circulation."

5) I think that you will see a lot of transactions in rubles, and renminbi (Yuans?). Maybe Deutshe-marks. Swiss francs would be a good choice, but they are exceedingly volatile right now - through no fault of their own. (IOW right now, Swiss francs are not a store of value or unit of account - see below.) Certainly not Euros. ;-)

What is money? It is: 1) a means of exchange, 2) a unit of account, and 3) a store of value. It isn't clear to me that if you have those three things, then you have money - but I think that it is necessarily true. See Ron Paul interrogating Ben Bernanke WRT gold. How many nuclear fuels rods can Iran accept in exchange for oil? After a while it gets to be the case that they don't have more immediate domestic needs and go searching for a mechanism to buy condos in Miami.