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To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 6:45:00 PM
From: s martin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 55532
 
And you're here everyday hyping hyping hyping hyping hyping hyping .



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:07:00 PM
From: Riley G  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 55532
 
Pugs,
Well it looks like the sharks and low lifes are out in force trying to really slam RMIL tonight. They are all out in force trying to create a meltdown in our stock. I pitty those that have fallen for their outright lies and slander of the nays and shorts! I am disgusted with their criminal acts of attacking RMIL and it's shareholders.

It appears to me that the shorts are on their last legs and are up a creek without a paddle and are really lighting the fires on this one. The NASD is working for use shareholders and checking to Kugler and all other nays on this thread. They all seem to have one agenda, and that is to tank RMIL and screw us long shareholders.

I have been 100% with everyone and have reported the facts and the share amounts that others have given me as to what they own.

Riley G
718-331-1960



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:09:00 PM
From: Riley G  Respond to of 55532
 
A short seller's Company Description

Item 1. Description of Business
Business Development

Development Bancorp, Ltd. (the "Company") Development Bancorp is a holding company
that owns various interests in subsidiaries and investee companies
in the financial services industry in North America and Europe. The
Company was
incorporated on August 16, 1984 in the state of Washington under the
name Gold Valley,
Inc. for the primary purpose of exploring and developing gold
properties.
No commercial ore deposits were developed. In 1986, the Company
acquired an 18.75% interest in an oil partnership consisting of five wells in
Pondera County, Montana. In 1991, the Company sold this partnership interest to
the then officers and directors of the Company on an installment contract. In
1991, the Company canceled this contract from these affiliates in exchange for
investment banking and financial consulting services when it became apparent
that the affiliates were not willing or able to pay. After sale of its
partnership interest, the Company began to seek other business opportunities. On
August 13, 1993, the Company changed its name to Development Bancorp, Ltd. and
effected a 165-for-1 reverse stock split in preparation for a private placement
fund raising. Under the Washington Business Corporation Act, the name change and
the reverse stock split only required approval of the Board of Directors of the
Company and not approval of its shareholders In conjunction with the special
meeting in lieu of the annual meeting, held on October 4, 1993, the Company's
shareholders authorized the issuance of preferred stock, adopted a Stock Option
Plan and ratified the reverse stock split. Following this reorganization, the
Company has directed its efforts towards financial services as well as merchant
banking activities focused on investing in financial service subsidiaries and
partnering with other companies around the world engaged in financial services.

Financial Services

In June 1993 the Company commenced its business of providing financial
services with the organization of an operating subsidiary, Societe Financiere de
Distribution Geneve S.A. (oSFDo). SFD operates in Geneva, Switzerland and is a
Swiss financial company. In fiscal 1995 the Company organized Development
Bancorp Services Limited, an Irish corporation?? ("Ireland"). SFD's and
Ireland's activities consist primarily of financial services, including
financial advisory and transactional support services. Neither Ireland nor SFD
publicly solicits customer deposits and both companies employ other banks as
custodian of customer cash and securities assets, and are therefore exempt from
the banking regulations. Both subsidiaries deal exclusively with institutional
clients in Europe. The Company's European operations are managed by Riccardo
Mortara, president and chairman of the Company. Mr. Mortara has over 20 years
experience in the Swiss banking industry and he is the owner and operator of
Societe Financiere du Seujet, a Swiss trust & portfolio management company.
Certain conflicts of interest do exist (See Conflicts...)

SFD is owned 99.3% by the Company and 0.7% by Mr. Riccardo Mortara, a managing
director of SFD. SFD was capitalized in July, 1993 by a capital
contribution of 427,000 Swiss Francs ("SFr") by the Company and SFr 3,000 by Mr.
Mortara. If not for Mr. Mortara's ownership of SFD, it would be a wholly owned
subsidiary of the Company and under Swiss law the Company would be deemed to be
liable for all of SFD's liabilities. Societe Financiere de Seujet, S.A. is a
shareholder of the Company, and its shares may be deemed beneficially owned by
Mr. Mortara. Following the reorganization of the Company into financial services
and the establishment of the Company's European subsidiaries, the Company has
been active in seeking merchant banking opportunities to invest and partner with
other financial services companies around the world.

Merchant Banking Activities

In September of 1993, the Company invested US$921,000 with an
organization known as PEMP. PEMP is a licensed Canadian financial advisory,
insurance, and fund management group based in Montreal. The Company received
120,000 Class G Shares, or 9%, of the holding company for the PEMP operations,
known as Gestion PEMP, Inc., as well as a royalty to receive a portion of
certain fees from the development of the PEMP network. The Class G shares are
not transferable except in the event of a sale of the entire business. In 1996
and 1995 the Company received $0 and $35,017, respectively, in commissions
from royalty in the PEMP Network. No proceeds have been received
in 1996 because PEMP is currently reorganizing its ownership structure
and it is
anticipated that the Company's royalty right will be converted into redeemable
preferred shares in late 1997. The PEMP group currently has 5 offices and
6,000 customers throughout Canada.

In 1996, the Company helped fund PEMP's expansion with the purchase of
4.65 million redeemable preferred shares of the senior holding Company, Gestion
Guychar Inc. for $3.5 million (Canadian dollars). The preferred shares are
non-voting, non-transferable, and non-participating and are redeemed as follows:
$1,250,000 on October 1, 2001, with an annual cumulative dividend of 4%, payable
on October 1 of each year; $1,300,000 on October 1, 2002, with an annual
cumulative dividend of 3.8%, payable on October 1 of each year; and $2,100,000
on October 1, 2003, with an annual cumulative dividend of 3.5% payable on
October 1 of each year. All amounts respecting the preferred shares are in
Canadian dollars. The purchase price of the preferred shares in US dollars was
$3,132,012.

On December 6, 1995, the Company acquired 1,967,1433 shares, or 51%, or KSM Financial
Holdings, Inc. ("KSM") for a purchase price of $250,000. KSM, a
Nevada
corporation, owns all of the capital stock of Global Financial Group,
Inc. ("Global"). The management of KSM and Global continued without change after
the acquisition by the Company. Global is a broker deal registered with the
National Association of Securities Dealers, Inc. ("NASD"). Following the initial
acquisition, the Company invested additional sums and negotiated with Kevin
Miller, CEO of KSM and Global and the owner of the 49% remaining stake in KSM,
to acquire his stake. With the Company's assistance, Global quickly grew from
being an agency brokerage with offices in two US cities, to a fully licensed
market maker and underwriter, with offices in ten US cities. The terms of the
acquisition of the remaining stake were finalized in the early summer of 1996
and the acquisition was formally closed on September 6, 1996, making KSM a
wholly owned subsidiary. The additional stake was acquired from Kevin Miller for
110,000 shares of Series B Convertible Preferred Shares of the Company.

While the Company was pleased with Global's initial growth, management
of the subsidiaries were reluctant to fully implement changes or improvements
suggested by the Company, and consistently failed to provide complete financial
information to the Company. The Company believed that the acquisition of the
remaining 49% stake, thus making KSM and Global wholly owned subsidiaries of the
Company, would make KSM and Global management fully answerable. This did not
prove to be the case. Kevin Miller was either unwilling or unable to fully
embrace and implement the suggested direction and changes favored by the
Company. The Company favored revenue building strategies including hiring more
brokers for each office. The Company also favored strategies to have Global
enforce a basic dress code, minimal work hours, and minimal production levels.
The company favored increased compliance and a policy of restricting brokers
from activities that are not completely understood and approved in advance by
Global's head of compliance.

Replacing Kevin Miller was an option but it was also noted that he had substantial
loyalty among the Global workforce - who were increasingly seeing
the Company
as an unwanted and meddlesome outsider. At the same time, the
Company was
having difficulties understanding the nature of Global's cash flow
needs as well
as troubles completing the Company's public reporting - largely
because of
less than perfect cooperation from the subsidiaries.
On November 1, 1996, the Company agreed to rescind the acquisition of KSM and
treat all moneys paid by the Company to or on behalf of KSM and Global as a
loan, due and payable in 3 years with 10% interest paid annually.
Kevin Miller
signed the recission agreement and wrote in two changes, a 5 year
term and 8%
interest, which only he initialed. In the summer of 1997 during
routine audit
confirmations, Kevin Miller informed the Company's auditor that
KSM and Global
has no intention of ever repaying the Company. In part due to Mr.
Miller's
comments and in part for fundamental collectibility concerns, the
auditor has
caused the Company to write its investment into Global down to
$250,000.
Because of Mr. Miller's current position and his failure to surrender
the Company's
Series B Convertible Preferred Shares that he received, the
Company is not
certain of the legal effect of the recission or what the proper
terms are.
The Company intends to recover the maximum amount possible and is
currently studying
litigation should a friendly resolution not be forthcoming.
Unless otherwise
stated in this filing, all information herein reflects the
recission of
the KSM/Global transaction. In the second half of 1997, the Company purchased
7,345 shares of Societe Financiere Privee ("SFP"), a Swiss bank for US$4,148,293.
SFP offers complete banking and portfolio management services and is publicly traded
on the Swiss Stock Exchange. The Company's ownership of SFP is equal to about 3%
of SFP's outstanding shares. The Company is currently in discussion with
SFP to co-develop and offer certain services in the United States.

Competition

Competition in the Company's areas of focus come from international and
local banks, brokerage firms, and other financial institutions. Most of these
competitors have greater experience and greater financial resources than the
Company.

Employees

The Company has 5 employees, including its officers. The officers of
the Company do not work exclusively for the Company and certain conflicts of
interest exist (See conflicts).

Regulations

SFD is subject to numerous regulations under the Swiss financial
companies statutes. SFD is subject to annual audit requirements; must maintain
an adequate relationship between its equity and its total liabilities, and
between its current assets and liabilities; and is prohibited from engaging in
money laundering. SFD is not permitted to place securities with the general
public, but only with institutional clients, and does not hold custody of cash
for customers. Commissions for securities transactions are not regulated. SFD
opens accounts for each customer in an authorized bank, outside of its own
balance sheet.

Since SFD does not publicly solicit customer deposits, it is exempt
from many reporting and regulatory provisions ordinarily applicable to Swiss
financial companies.

A financial company like SFD which does not publicly recommend itself
for the acceptance of deposits can obtain the status of a bank-like finance
company by means of a decision of the Banking Commission. Based on the
activities of a finance company, the Banking Commission is empowered to
interpret the applicability or non-applicability of certain provisions of the
Swiss Banking Law.

In addition to the general regulations applicable to all Swiss
companies, bank-like companies, not publicly soliciting deposits, have to comply
with the following provisions:

(1)Pursuant to Article 7 of the Swiss Banking Law they are required to
submit to the National Bank their annual balance sheet. If the National Bank
requires it may also require detailed semi-annual balance sheets, as well as any
other information and reports which it may consider necessary, such in
connection with the credit and monetary policy.

(2)To enable the Banking Commission to determine whether a bank-like
finance company does not in fact publicly solicit deposits, it is required to
submit to the Banking Commission an annual balance sheet prepared in accordance
with the Implementing Ordinance to the Swiss Banking Law, an annual report of
the board of directors, and an auditor's report prepared by an independent and
qualified auditing company.

(3)Under Article 8 of the Swiss Banking Law the prior approval of the
Swiss National Bank is required for foreign bond or share issues of SFr 10
million or more floated in Switzerland and for credits and loans to
non-residents in amounts exceeding this sum and with terms of longer than twelve
months. The rule applies to the placement of medium term foreign obligations
with a maturity of twelve months or more, if the amount placed is expected to
total Sfr 3 million within a year. The Swiss National Bank is empowered to
refuse permission or to impose conditions if deemed necessary in the light of the
Swiss franc exchange rate, the interest rate trend on the Swiss money and capital
markets or the overall national interest.

In comparison with banks, the advantages of a finance company that is
subject to Articles 7 and 8 of the Swiss Banking Law only consist, for example,
in the fact that in the exercise of its activity it is not bound by the
provisions of the Swiss Banking Law concerning ratios between equity,
liabilities and liquid funds. Moreover, such a finance company would be under no
restriction if, for example, it proposed to grant substantial credit facilities
to a single customer, while real banks are required to maintain an adequate
ratio to their own funds with regard to any single borrower.

There are no other licensing or other requirements known to the Company
which would be required to enable it to compete effectively in the United States
and foreign markets.
====================

I found these two items on the internet related to SOCIETE FINANCIERE PRIVEE.

1:SOCIETE FINANCIERE PRIVEE
iht.com
GENEVA ADMINISTRATION TEL +41 22 8183131

w Crescendo Italia Fund Lit 11858.00
m Italy Trend Global Fund Lit 110537.00
m Forex & Futures Fund $ 111.98
m Strategic Asset Mngt $ 771.00
m Concorde Investment Fd 1 $ 1116.28
m Concorde Investment Fd 2 $ 1088.91
m Selective Future Portfolio $ 1184.34
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

bourse.ch
2: Nr. 1420vom 24.Dezember 1996

Gesellschaft: Societe financiere privee SA
ISIN: CH0005493660
Titel: Aufstockung

Information officielle de la Bourse Suisse
-----
bourse.ch
No.: 1'420
Titre: SOCIETE FINANCIERE PRIVEE SA, GenŠve
No de valeur: 549'366
ISIN: CH0005493660

Augmentation de capital 1996
Introduction au march‚ annexe de la Bourse Suisse de 26'000
actions au porteur nouvelles de CHF 100.- nominal chacune

Emission 26'000 actions au porteur de CHF 100.-
nominal chacune.

Prix de souscription CHF 550.- net par action au porteur

P‚riode de souscription cette augmentation de capital a eu lieu
du 1er au 18.11.1996.

Droit de souscription coupon no 5 des actions au porteur
anciennes.

Lib‚ration 19 novembre 1996.

Jouissance 1er janvier 1997. Le num‚ro de valeur
549'366 a ‚t‚ ouvert pour ces 26'000 actions
au porteur nouvelles.

Remarque par erreur, la cotation de ces nouvelles
actions au porteur provenant de l'augmentation
de capital avait ‚t‚ demand‚e avec le num‚ro de
valeur (249'229) des actions au porteur ancien-
nes qui b‚n‚ficieront du dividende pour
l'exercice 1996.

Instance Suisse d'Admission

Date: le 24 d‚cembre 1996
Banque: Banque Cantonale de Vaudoise
Personne: G. Sri
T‚l‚phone: 021/ 212 24 55
=============



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:18:00 PM
From: Riley G  Respond to of 55532
 
Rocky Mountain International (OTC: RMIL)
formerly known as Olympus Ventures. Inc. (OVIS)
--------------------------
Olympus Ventures,Inc. web site:
olympusventures.com

Here is the Company telephone & fax numbers: Call them and request an investors package and talk to the CEO. 1-954-565-9292 (Florida) or fax at 1-954-565-8894.

Rocky Mountain Crystal Water web site:
goodbuys.com
-----------------------------

Date: 97-08-07 21:06:10 EDT

What do you mean when you say were did I come across this stock? I researched this turnaround company with its low float and LARGE short interest.

I and others believe that OVIS has been hit heavily by Market Maker MM) shorts. I have reason to believe that there are some 2 million MM plus EXTRA shares out there that will have to be covered someday. Take a look at what happened to Knickerbocker, Resorts International, IOMEGA, Presstek, Diana, etc.. when short busters moved in on those stocks. They went through the roof as the shorts tried to cover and others (day traders) moved into catch the action.

OVIS is not being hyped. It has turned around with the new management team and has turned to the black rather than the red. Look for OVIS to be at $12 to $15 in 12 months based upon projected revenues. If a short squeeze is applied then we could see major $$$$ as the shorts scramble to cover.

I am forming a cartel of investors for OVIS. I am trying to get a public count of all known shares in public hands to confirm what I suspect.
================================================

Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 20:52:35 -0400

At 06:26 PM 8/9/97 +0000, you wrote:
>I may be so brash,exactly who are you?I am a self employed construction
>worker in upstate NY,I trade in all my spare time and I do make money.I
>love the business and am looking forward to doing it full time in a
>couple of years.I don't want to get personal but I would like to know
>where you are coming from,like have you ever done this before? Thanks
>Pal,I'll let you know when I get more OVIS this week,looking forward to
>your response

I am a retired NYPD Police Officer. I retired on a medical disability (broken neck) some seven years ago. I am also a professional actor, TV-Show consultant and avid stock investor. My money has been made in the market and some from the acting and other things that I do, besides that some of the investors of OVIS know me from the AOL boards.

Some of my past hits were the following:
Buy of 10,000 shares of BTIM at 4 and sold a few months later at 25 to 28.
Buy of 10,000 shares of RESI at 3 to 4 and sold at 38 to 40 a few months later.
Shorted SYQT for 20,000 shares at 13 and covered less than 20 minutes later at 7.
================================

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:42:25 -0400
Subject: OVIS: A question and answer

At 09:55 PM 8/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>How does this work? Does all the price run up have to come from the
shorts covering, or does public and us have to come in to buy more?

I have decided to keep the cartel list confidential as per the email that I have received.
-----

Now regarding a short squeeze, it is a combination of both shorts and more buyers coming into the stock. The run up would look like this.

1. You have shorts covering, this causes the price to rise. Sharp raises in price attract the day traders, and those who hear about the possibilities of major money to be made.
2. You have day traders coming in and they buy and sell large volumes during the day or days. A lot of them like to free ride (Buy and sell in the same day.). In the mean time they add greatly to the increase in volume and price increase, as the shorts have to compete with day traders buying.
3. This feeds back to number one. As the shorts and day traders bid for shares to buy the price of the stock raises to met the demand to buy.

----
This same story also works in reverse. And that's what happened the first time. OVIS was hit with bad times. Blood was spilled and the sharks moved in for the kill. But this company did not die, it fought back and appears to have has made a turn around. And given the low public float and alleged large naked and regular short position in the stock. The tides have turned and we hold the cards.

Remember that there is strength in numbers. If we act as a team and make a team effort rather than just thinking of ME, ME , ME. Then we will all make a large profit from OVIS during and after a short squeeze.
I suspect that there my be some weak links in our cartel, but this is true with all groups. I only hope that the weak links can see the rewards of working with everyone else here and not sell early.
==========================

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 01:30:50 -0400
Subject: release of shares when it happens

Here's how I plan to sell my shares through a slow steady upward process. Others may want to model a slow steady sell after this. I have no control of how you do it. As in all investments, this is only a template!

Stock Price Sell percentage
xx-xx 3% to 5% of position (cover buy in and nice profit)
xx-xx another 5%
xxx-xxx 10%
xxx-xxx 10%
xxx-xxx 10%
xxx-xxx 10%
xxx-xxx 10%
xxx-xxx 10%
xxx-xxx 10%
xxx-xxx 10%
xxx-xxx 10%
================================================

It is a simple matter to replace the xxx-xxx's with the starting price ranges that you want to start selling off shares. This method does not flood the market with shares and allows the stock price to grow as you sell a little here and there. You don't have to sell them in a day, two, or a month. You just follow your own set selling plan.

I have said that I am not selling any shares until the mid. $50 to $65 range, and then about 865 shares of my position! I do not sell on even numbers, I have plans on selling at odd places like EXAMPLE....200 shares at 56.625, 300 shares at 58.125,etc.....

Riley G

As always do your own research before buying any security.



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:19:00 PM
From: Riley G  Respond to of 55532
 
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 01:00:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RANDALL BAKER FROM CALIFORNIA----PLEASE POST!!!!!

Riley,
I spoke to Randall Baker yesterday afternoon 9/26/97. I informed him that I am an investor of OVIS and would like to hear both sides of the story.
Randall immediately started talking about the illegal 10K from June 1996 and also the scam/manipulation going on right now with regards to the stock price
of OVIS.

I cut him from what he was saying and ask him questions.....
1. Is your client short or not on OVIS?
Randall: He may or he may not!!!! (He does not want to admit the fact)

2. If he is not short, why is he upset with the runup of OVIS? Investing is seeing our money grow! Aren't we suppose to be happy that our investment is going UP instead of down?
Randall: We are after the management who is not telling the truth about the outstanding shares and illegal shares given to Michael Zapara.

3. I myself verified the outstanding shares, Are you telling me that the TA is not telling the truth?
Randall: Yes, the TA is not telling the truth!

4. I was told that you are holding 1 million shares of OVIS. I heard that you have mentioned that to Riley G. Is that true and if it is, can I have the cert number?
Randall: No, I didn't say that we have 1 million shares. ( Riley, He probably meant 1 million short)

5. OK, OK! Lets start from the beginning, if you are concerned about US investor of OVIS, why is it that you sent a press release stating that you are into Real-estate consulting and stated that the original OVIS does not exist? Of all the names in the world, WHY DID YOU FILE WITH THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AN INCORPORATION WITH THE SAME NAME "OLYMPUS VENTURES"? You even sent somebody there and literally "walk" the documents to state office which is done by mail 100% of the time.
Randall: We said that because we want to HALT THE TRADING OF OVIS!!!! We did that because WE WANTED TO HALT THE TRADING OF OVIS!!!!

6. WHY?
Randall: Because we don't want any more investors getting fooled by the scam OVIS is in!

7. SCAM, I still don't see any scam going on except the illegal press release you have done. If you are really concerned about us (investors)and would like to warn us about the runup/manipulation of the OVIS stock, then ANYBODY WHO IS IN THEIR RIGHT FRAME OF MIND WOULD.........
FIRST, issue a press release stating your allegations AND, NOT, pretending or trying to SCARE the UNKNOWING investors by stating that the OVIS they have invested in no longer exist. I don't see that you are concerned about the welfare of the investors at all with your actions. (no comment heard from Randall)
SECOND, would file a major complaint with the SEC about the scam that you are claiming(which has no basis at all).
THIRD, would contact the proper authorities other than the SEC.

Randall: Did not give any answer but just kept on going around the bush with BS again.

8. Are you a lawyer? I would like to know what is your position or why are you representing your client? Who do you work for? I am an investor with a huge position on OVIS and would like to hear both sides. By verifying your occupation and background, I would make my decision on who to believe.
Randall: No! I'm not a lawyer! I am a broker!

9.OK a broker...for who? Can you give me your phone number or office address?
Randall: No, I work for myself. I am not connected with anybody. I can't give you my office number you can just call me on this number (WHICH, BTW, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, A CELLULAR PHONE NUMBER).

10. Mr. Baker, you still have not convince me one bit! You mentioned that the shorts will not have to cover how is that? I spoke with SCHWAB, ETRADE AND CERES about naked shorts and undeclared shorts...ALL OF THEM TOLD ME THAT, YES IT HAS TO BE COVERED! And one way of covering it is by buying back ALL the shares that was shorted and as a result...the price (BID AND ASK) will just FLY!
Randall: No, they don't have to cover. They are lying to you ( I told him, Come on, all 3 professional brokers lying about naked shorts and undeclared shorts..I don't think so). He continued, The TA would have to close down their office when the last cert is issued!

11. (Very much surprised with the answer) I said, WHAT? How would that happen? The TA just breaks down the certificates that was given to them in bulk by the DTC. The TA has nothing to do with it. In fact, they said that they are currently swamped with requests
Randall: (now very nervous and just stuttering on his answers) No, they will shut down for there will be no more shares to be issued.
I said, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! The TA will not shut down, but instead, THE DTC will go back to the Market makers, also your client, who shorted the stock and ask for the shares they shorted. This by the way will result to huge runup on the OVIS price.

12. I just finished researching IOMEGA and PRESSTEK who experienced a short squeeze. I hate to tell you Mr. Baker that OVIS is very much identical with the IOMEGA AND PRESSTEK's situation.
UNDECLARED SHORTS=SHORT SQUEEZE=MORE$$$$$$$$$$
Randall: No way for the TA office will close and there will be no shares traded.
(This goes to show that Mr. Baker does not know what he is talking about even if he claims he is a broker) The manipulation is being done in SI web site? I asked how? By mentioning that they will be buying the shares and stating the minutes it take for the trade to get filled. Is that manipulation to you? I don't think so! I stated, There are dozens of chat rooms(like AOL, Motley Fool, Excite, etc.) discussing stocks and when to buy. I even said that in SI alone, there are more than a dozen threads that discuss the same thing like EUTO, ARET, ZE, EXSO, etc and with much more posts, like SYCR...HOW COME YOU ARE JUST CENTERING IT ON OVIS? Why not EXSO or SYCR? Randall replied, "Oh um,
more familiar with OVIS" . I immediately followed, EXSO is in the red in financials and it had a run up from .06 to .50, EUTO has not proven anything so far but it went from .003 to .25. Why not complain against this stocks?
Randall replied " Oh umm, is there a number I can call you back?" I'll call you back later.

I asked him to give me his office number instead, but he does not want to. I even said, I don't want to call you on your cellular phone because it is more expensive. I would rather call you in your office. Guess what, HE DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE ME THE NUMBER IN HIS OFFICE. He hang up!

Anyway, Mr.Randall Baker sounded very concern about the whole situation. He knows how strong the cartel has become. Mr. Randall Baker does not know what he was talking about, even if he claims that he knows more than the guys (traders/brokers) of SCHWAB, ETRADE AND CERES. Come on guys, it was confirmed again that these guys in California are a bunch of SCARED AND NERVOUS shorters WHO WILL BE PAYING US BACK BIGTIME$$$$. They are soooooo desperate right now and will just do anything to avoid the squeeze. Why? because, they will pay us BIGTIME!!!!!$$$$$$$

As soon as I mentioned IOMEGA and PRESSTEK, he(Mr. Baker) sounded more concerned. I guess he was present during their time. FYI, IOMEGA had a runup from $20 to $330/share because of a squeeze. Presstek had a run up from $2-$4 to $200 because of short squeeze also.

What we are seeing now in OVIS is a very identical situation! Just hang in there guys and as Riley have said, TIME IS IN OUR HANDS!!! I for one is now 100% sure that the squeeze is about to start. IMHO, we will definitely see a huge runup when the TA prints the last certificate.

GO OVIS!!!!!! OVIS AIRLINES IS NOW CLEARED FOR TAKE OFF!!!!!!! We are serving chocolate mousse with M&M's toppings for dessert

THE CAVALRY
ARMED AND DANGEROUS
BUYING...NOT SELLING!!!!!!



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:20:00 PM
From: Riley G  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 55532
 
Points of conversation with Gary Morgan on October 24th, 1997.

In regards to the Press released dated Thursday October 23 6:42 PM EDT from D. Mork and Magellan Litigation Services..PR Newswire.

1. The press release is distorted and not true.

2. When OVIS announced the Palco Letter of Intent (LOI) the stock price was already at $1 a share and not the .20 cents as mentioned in the press release.

3. The terms for the Palco LOI ended September 24th, 1997

4. RMCW combined assets are 21 million dollars. Magellan failed to mention the 14 million in investment assets. The only way to void that 4 million shares MVPH stock certificate is through a court order, and that has never been done!

5. Magellan also said that Morgan and Breton at one time owned 6,000,000 out of 7,000,000 shares issued. Well the total outstanding shares in the company is now only 3,071,081 shares. The new Rule 144 Legend shares are not outstanding (Merger with RMCW). Once again Magellan distorts the truth.

6. Magellan has started in with the new Transfer Agent. Magellan hammered American Stock Transfer with the same crap when Gary Morgan moved from Trans Securities. The new TA has received the same letters from Hand & Hand, or Magellan and even D. Mork in an attempt to get the new TA to quit, but the new TA is not concerned with their attempts and has handed these letters over to Gary Morgan as evidence.

7. (Riley G, Speaking his piece here!)At NO time has Gary Morgan, Roland Breton, or anyone from OVIS or the new RMIL contacted myself, or any of the shareholders known as the cartel to promote the stock. This is a flat out LIE and we investors should now stand behind Gary Morgan and RMIL and send copies of your private email, conversations with anyone trying to scare you into selling your OVIS/RMIL shares. We should also report the delays about our certificate deliveries being slowed down, lost, etc.

8. Time to fight back even harder. Contact the company with your information concerning the illegal activities of D. Mork, Hand & Hand and Magellan, and others.

With your further information contact Gary Morgan or Roland Breton at:
Telephone:954-565-9292
Fax. 954-565-8894
email: ovisusa@aol.com

In response to the following PR Newswire release.
biz.yahoo.com



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:21:00 PM
From: Riley G  Respond to of 55532
 
PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Nov. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Dempsey Mork announced today that he has filed a lawsuit in the United States District Court, Central District of California, against Rocky Mountain International Rocky Mountain trades on the OTC bulletin board under the symbol "RMII." The other defendants are Gary Morgan, Roland Breton, Micheal Puhr, Lorinda Liang, Wen Lan, Transecurites International, Lazar Levine & Co., Florida Stock Transfer, Riley G. Mathews, Scott Meyer, and World Marketing Alliance. The charges against the parties are for fraud, stock manipulation, conspiracy, the sale and distribution of unregistered securities, publishing false and misleading information, and violation of securities laws.

Mork is prepared to prove in court that the defendants have manipulated the market for Rocky Mountain/Olympus stock from $.20 to $3.50 per share based on two sham transactions. According to Mork, "The first sham transaction was when Rocky Mountain, then named Olympus, announced an agreement to acquire a company named Palco.

Prior to the announcement, Olympus' stock was trading at $.20 per share. The price of Olympus' stock rose to $4.00 per share on the announcement. The sham was that there was no Palco deal. "The second sham transaction was when Rocky Mountain, then named Olympus announced it had acquired a Wyoming based water bottling company with $21 million in assets. The $21 million in assets turns out to be a former veterinarian clinic used for bottling water with one employee. The maximum value of the facilities is under $100,000. "In addition to the sham transactions, certain of the defendants have swindled investors by issuing themselves enormous amounts of shares. At the beginning of this year, investors owned all of the approximately 1,000,000 shares of Olympus. Since then, defendants Morgan and Breton issued themselves 2 million shares of free stock, that had a market value of $7,000,000; plus an additional 4 million shares with a market value of $14,000,000 for which they will pay $4,000. Morgan and Breton at one time owned 6,000,000 out of 7,000,000 shares issued. "Morgan and Benton sought and obtained the assistance of the other defendants, who acted in various capacities, all of which assisted Morgan, Benton, and other stock promoters in manipulating the market of Rocky Mountain securities, and the sale and distribution of restricted Securities."

For further information contact Dempsey Mork at 760-360-1042.

SOURCE Dempsey Mork
/CONTACT: Dempsey Mork at 760-360-1042/



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:22:00 PM
From: Riley G  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 55532
 
biz.yahoo.com

NOV 07,1997 12:14 PACIFIC 15:14 EASTERN
Shareholder of Rocky Mountain International Ltd. -- OTC: RMIL -- Sued by Admitted Short Seller

BROOKLYN, N.Y.--Nov. 7, 1997--Riley G, an individual investor of Rocky Mountain International Ltd. (RMIL) responds to the press release issued Nov. 4, 1997 by Dempsey Mork of Development Bancorp (OTC: DVBC), and Magellan Capital Corp. after being served a summons of complaint in United States District Court, Central District of California. Case number: EDCV-97-300 RT (VAPx).

ÿÿÿÿ1. Riley G started a grass roots movement with other shareholders of "Rocky Mountain International Ltd. (OTC: RMIL)" after uncovering over 1 million shares in excess of the public float. These extra shares in the RMIL market are the direct results of abusive short selling by well-capitalized trading firms and individuals attempting to profit from market manipulation rather than company and market fundamentals.

ÿÿÿÿ2. Riley G recommends that all shareholders take physical delivery of their stock certificates. When delivery of stock certificates is demanded by a significant number of shareholders, the creators of nonexistent stock will be forced to clear the market of the extra shares that they flooded in to the market. We are not talking about legal shorting; we are talking about the selling of nonexistent shares. Thus keeping the price of a stock down in attempts to terminal short it. If a terminal short is made (stock value = $0) then the short sellers never have to worry about coving the extra shares that they flooded the market with. This is why every shareholder must demand delivery of their certificates!

ÿÿÿÿ3. Riley G states for the record, "I am only a shareholder of RMIL stock and have no direct or indirect ties or links to Rocky Mountain International, LTD. (RMIL). I am also sick and tired of the short sellers and their associates on the Internet with their repeated attacks on other RMIL shareholders and myself, as they continue to slander a company that I am a shareholder of. It appears that the short sellers' main intent is to manipulate the price of RMIL down in an attempt to cause shareholders to sell off their shares for the personal gain and benefit of the short sellers."

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CONTACT: Riley G Enterprises
Riley G, 718/331-1960
Riley-G-Enterprises@psicop.com

KEYWORD: NEW YORK
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: BANKING



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:24:00 PM
From: Riley G  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 55532
 
More of the blatant attempt to get you to sell your shares and let the shorts win this battle.
I am sick of it!

Riley G
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To: Jeffrey C. Garland (12818 )
From: ptm, inc Tuesday, Nov 4 1997 8:09PM EST
Reply #12838 of 12922

TROUBLED WATERS
Stock scam allegations leveled at Ten Sleep bottler
Monday November 4, 1997
By TOM MORTON,Star-Tribune staff writer copyright 1997, Casper Star-Tribune

TEN SLEEP-Rocky Mountain Crystal Water, Inc. whose lone employee works part-time in its small, drab green building on the outskirts of this town of 311, occasionally bottles and ships the tasty artesian water that flows from the Madison Formation in the nearby Big Horn Mountain.
This quiet town, and even quieter bottling plant, are at the center of an alleged nationwide stock scam, according to an investor who says the company's owners have defrauded him, will defraud other investors, and will give Wyoming a bad name.
"It's air," Dempsey Mork said of the bottling company's stock promotion.
The company, Rocky Mountain International Ltd., has issued or taken options to issue as many as 19.6 million shares for a bottling plant with total assets of $200,000, Mork said from his home in Indian Wells, Calif.
If you divide the shares into the company's actual assets, they would be worth 1 cent each, he said.
Discussion of Rocky Mountain International has racked up more than 12,000 postings on the Internet since Oct. 1 as investors have traded hundreds of thousands of shares, priced at $2.94 on the Over The Counter Bulletin Board, an electronic stock trading method.
The traded words and traded shares mark the symptoms of "an ongoing stock scam" by the company's owners who inflate the value of the firm to
sell stock to unsuspecting investors, Mork charged.
Rocky Mountain International Ltd., of Littleton, Colo., claims it's worth $16 million, not counting an additional $5 million it needs to raise to capitalize the operation, according to Securities and ExchangeCommission documents.
"This has to be the only $16 million water bottling water company in the world with one employee," Mork said.
Mork said his interest arose after being deceived into entering an agreement with an acquaintance of company owners to sell 100,000 shares
of the company, previously known as Olympus Ventures in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., when it was priced at about 20 cents a share.
Because company officials and their friends using the Internet allegedly manipulated the value of the stock in a company with little real market value, Mork estimates that he's out as much as $280,000.
So he's sued Rocky Mountain International officials in a California State court for fraud, stock manipulation, conspiracy, breach of contract, and violation of securities laws, he said.
However, Olympus Ventures officials Gary Morgan and Roland Breton accuse Mork of engaging in his own version of stock manipulation by making false statements to downplay the value of company shares.
"We're a very small company, a very healthy little growing company, and he's been a very damaging person to us," said Morgan, the company's chief executive officer.
So Olympus Ventures has sued him in federal court for defamation, unfair business practices and conspiracy, he said. The company, Morgan
added, hasn't been served with Mork's suit.
Mork responded that the suit hasn't been served on Breton and Morgan because of serious questions about whether Olympus Ventures legally exists in Washington, the state of its incorporation.
These and other issues about Rocky Mountain International attract hundreds of comments a day on the Internet. Investors calling themselves the "cartel" promote the company as a small firm trying to succeed in the face of alleged manipulation by Mork and others. A group
of self-named "Naysayers" question the company's business practices.
Both sides said they've reported each other's activities to the SEC, the federal agency that governs the registration, publication of information, and sale of securities.
However, the SEC does not comment on whether firms are under investigation, said Fred Chavez, senior special counsel in the enforcement, division of the commission's office in Denver.
And Tom Cowan, director of the securities division of the Wyoming Secretary of State's Office, said the company has generated neither complaints nor an investigation.
Meanwhile, residents here said they're unaware of the controversy.
Three years ago, the town signed an exclusive agreement with Rocky Mountain Crystal Water to sell its surplus water from the Big Horn Mountains for $1,000 a month, former mayor Merle Funk said. (See
related story.)
The plant sporadically produced pallets of bottled water with manual equipment, shipped them statewide and as far away as Taiwan and Mexico, and sometimes ran two shifts, according to residents and plant office manager and sole employee Alex Lockhart. The plant has done little business recently, Lockhart said.
Morgan said Monday that the plant is inactive.
But the Oct. 1 Business Wire announcement of the merger between Olympus Ventures and Rocky Mountain Crystal Water quotes Morgan saying: "With Rocky Mountain Crystal Water's existing business and future contracts this merger will be an exciting and profitable experience for all of
us."
Mork said the nonexistent business coupled with Morgan's hype reveals a pattern of Olympus Ventures' buying troubled companies and pumping up the prices.
Mork accused Morgan and Breton of using the inflated prices "to fabricate a phony balance sheet so it could sell shares to unsuspecting investors."
They also have swindled investors by issuing themselves enormous amounts of shares after acquiring these companies, most recently after
the Sept. 24 merger with Rocky Mountain Crystal Water, Mork said.
Potential investors, he said, won't know about Rocky Mountain International's small size just by looking at the 8-K form - an SEC report required within 15 days of a major transaction such as a buyout.
The 8-K states: "The principal assets of Rocky Mountain include inventory, accounts receivable, and equipment, which will continue to be used as at present; licenses for water rights to extract and produce
artesian water from its source in the Big Horn mountains of Wyoming; and cash."
According to Morgan and the unaudited combined balance sheet included in the 8-K, the total assets of $16,010,431 are composed of $281,013 in current assets, $14.0 million in stocks, $1,641,603 in fixed assets, and $87,815 in other assets.
However, Mork said the 8-K mentions nothing about the company owning securities.
Morgan and the 8-K also said Rocky Mountain International is negotiating with a private, unnamed investor for an additional $5
million in cash for the company for expansion of the water bottling plant and the garment industry.
The $5 million cash infusion should become final "literally within minutes," Morgan said Monday.
Mork said most investors don't know that the 8-K states that the deal is off if Rocky Mountain International doesn't raise the $5 million.
Such statements, Morgan said, illustrate Mork's damaging influence on their company.
Mork has posted statements on the Internet asserting stock manipulation by Olympus Ventures and Rocky Mountain International Ltd., according to
a Sept. 25 news release from Olympus issued on the Internet's Yahoo Business Wire.
"Mork has a history of such behavior," Morgan said in an interview. He's influenced the market to devalue four other public companies,
taking their shares from $7 plus down to $2 or less over a 12 month period, Morgan charged. "He destroys small companies - that's what he does for a living."

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To: Jimbo (12836 )
From: ptm, inc Tuesday, Nov 4 1997 8:12PM EST
Reply #12840 of 12923

Casper Star-Tribune
MONDAY NOVEMBER 4,1997 FOUNDED 1891
By TOM MORTON, Star-Tribune staff writer copyright 1997, Casper Star-Tribune

TEN SLEEP - Three years of broken promises haven't drowned this town's hope that a bottling plant could jump start the economy and provide
jobs, residents say.
But Rocky Mountain Crystal Water's behavior, even after its Sept. 24 merger with a firm in Florida, hasn't endeared the company to Ten Sleep, either, they said.
"They're sitting there spinning their wheels," Mayor Pat Beckley said.
Company officials called Beckley on Monday and told him that they'd be visiting him by the end of the month to discuss future plans, he said.
But even if the company does go somewhere, it also must contend with the risks of a highly competitive industry with a heavy product to ship and a slim profit margin, the president of a competing Casper bottling firm said.

Casper, added Hillcrest Water President George Baker, is much closer to markets and highways than Ten Sleep.
This town on U.S. Highway 16, halfway between Worland on the west and Powder River Pass in the Big Horn Mountain on the east, bills itself as "A Little Western Town with A Big Western Heart."
The struggles and hopes of Ten Sleep - an agricultural community that wants to keep its character while serving growing numbers of tourists and hunters - mirror on a small scale those elsewhere in economically stagnant Wyoming.
But it's got something for which towns and cities in the West will go to political war: water.
Millions of gallons of pure, clear, untreated, unchlorinated water that gushes from the Madison Formation in the

mountains directly to two wells 1,100 feet deep near the Town Hall.
Water so plentiful that most households don't have meters and pay a flat rate of $20 a month.
Merle Funk, mayor from 1992 to 1994, saw clear gold in the nearby hills, and wondered if both the town and an enterprising company would care to make some money, he said.
So in the fall of 1992, Ten Sleep took out an ad in the trade publication Bottle Water Reporter, Fund said.
Several firms responded, but only Colorado Clearwater of Littleton, Colo., expressed its
willingness to set up shop without the help of local or
state economic developments funds, he said.
By 1994, an attorney hired by the town researched Colorado Clearwater and reported that it was legitimate, Funk said.
So Ten Sleep and the company, which did business as Rocky Mountain Crystal Water, signed a 99-year contract in August 1994, he said.
Ten Sleep granted the exclusive right to bottle its unused water, according to the contract signed by company President Michael Puhr.
Rocky Mountain Crystal Water agreed to buy a minimum of 50,000 gallons a month at two cents a gallon, which would net Ten Sleep an extra $1,000 a month - welcome money for a town with a $260,000 budget, according to the contract and Funk.
Rocky Mountain Crystal Water bought a former 3,000-square-foot veterinary clinic, installed manual bottling equipment, printed labels
and began bottling water, Funk said.
While Ten Sleep likes the easy money, Funk and other residents said it hasn't been as pleased with Rocky Mountain Crystal Water's inability to fulfill other parts of the bargain.
The company promised to hire up to 50 people at between $8 and $10 an hour, Funk said. "For a town like this, that's great. There's people who drive 30 miles to Worland who don't make that kind of money."
For a while, the plant ran two shifts bottling water: The Ten Sleep product called Rocky Mountain Crystal Water and sold as far away as
Taiwan and Mexico; water trucked from Woods Landings bottled as Cheyenne Springs; and a temporary sports water product called Merlin Micromagic-fortified with "extra electrolytes. Then we active the water with natural fields of energy."
Over the summer business slowed to a trickle, Funk said.
Now, office manager Alex Lockhart is only employee, she said.
Rocky Mountain Crystal Water also promised to build a new plant, according to the contract.
Beckley, said that Roy Decker & Sons in Worland signed a contract with Rocky Mountain Crystal Water two years ago to build a 7,000square foot building. Constructions commenced with a concrete slab.
But the bottling company never paid for framing, so Decker dismantled the steel framing, Beckley said.
Beckley, Funk and other residents also said Rocky Mountain Crystal Water keeps a low corporate profile in the community by rarely helping
sponsor community events.
That profile is so low that the company doesn't even have a sign at its building at 97 Second St.
Rocky Mountain Crystal Water entered a new phase Sept. 24 when the Fort Lauderdale, Fla., firm of Olympus Ventures signed a merger agreement and reorganized the company as Rocky Mountain International Ltd.
Purr, now president of RockyMountain International's bottling division, said $5 million in cash the company plans to raise will help expand the plant with a high-speed bottling line.
According to the Washakie County Assessor's Office, the current total estimated fair market value of the bottling plant and land amounts to
$201,014 - $69,504 for the land and $131,510 for the building, equipment and other improvements.
Roland Breton, president of Rocky Mountain International, said expansion should begin in lateNovember, and completion of the project should be completed four months later.
Beckley said he welcomes any proposed expansion.
But Rocky Mountain International, he said, didn't help its cause when it drafted a testimonial letter about the company calling it an "important member of our community" addressed to Puhr and asked that Beckley sign it.
On advice of the town's attorney, Beckley said he refused to sign it.
Rocky Mountain International also faces challenges inherent in the highly competitive bottled water industry, said Baker of Hillcrest
Water.
Even with the location and transportation infrastructure advantages it enjoys, Hillcrest has a profit margin of only 2 percent, Baker said.
"Freight is just the killer," he said.



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:26:00 PM
From: Riley G  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 55532
 
Another past poster on the SI thread that was caught dead in his tracks when he posted his slander with other nays!

Riley G
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sec.gov
CORRECTION TO HEADING REGARDING ROBERT QUIEL

On September 12, the Digest included an article titled ROBERT QUIEL FOUND TO HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION TO THE NASD (Rel. 34-39056). The title should have read ROBERT QUIEL FOUND TO HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE NASD.

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ROBERT QUIEL FOUND TO HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION TO NASD

The Commission sustained NASD disciplinary action against Robert A.Quiel. The NASD had found that Quiel failed to give provide information requested by the NASD's staff and failed to cooperate with the NASD's investigation. The NASD censured Quiel, fined him $12,500, suspended him for 30 days, and required Quiel to requalify as a general securities representative.

The NASD sent Quiel a series of letter regarding his trading activities in certain securities and his receipt of certain funds. Although Quiel indicated in one of his responses that he was unable to provide any information to the NASD, Quiel admitted at the National Business Conduct Committee hearing that he in fact had responsive information. Quiel also claimed that he was unable to respond because he had lost or misplaced certain records. Quiel, however, failed to inform the NASD about the circumstances of the records' disappearance or any efforts that he had taken to locate them. The Commission sustained the NASD's sanctions against Quiel.
Rel. 34-39056

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To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:27:00 PM
From: Riley G  Respond to of 55532
 
SEC Schedules Meeting as Small-Stock Fraud Soars
By LESLIE EATON

NEW YORK -- Federal regulators are turning up the heat on some of Wall Street's biggest firms in an effort to prevent some small brokerage operations from defrauding investors who trade in the stocks of tiny companies.

Arthur Levitt Jr., the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, has called a meeting for Monday morning in New York with various regulators and at least half a dozen big firms that process the trades of thousands of smaller outfits, according to a letter given to The New York Times by a Wall Street executive.

In his letter summoning the firms to a meeting, Levitt wrote that "minimizing abuses in the market for low-priced, or microcap, securities is one of my highest priorities." State and federal regulators report that fraud in small stocks is soaring, costing investors billions of dollars.

Much of the fraud, regulators say, occurs at small brokerage firms that could not stay in business without a clearing firm. Clearing brokers process and guarantee the trades of small firms, maintain their customers' accounts and in some cases lend the firms money.

One issue the commission is examining, Levitt wrote, is "ways in which clearing brokers can be more responsive to red flags they receive about misconduct" at their client firms. Because customers receive their statements from clearing firms, they often complain to the clearing firms about problems like unauthorized trading.

Commission officials declined to comment on the letter.

The firms invited to the meeting include the largest firms that clear for others: Bear Stearns; Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette, whose clearing operation is its Pershing division; and Fidelity Investments' National Financial Services Corp.

Officials of these firms either declined to comment late Wednesday or could not be reached for comment.

The arcane world of clearing has become controversial because of the activities of several small brokerage firms that, regulators contend, defrauded investors of millions of dollars.

A grand jury in Manhattan is investigating the demise of a firm, called A.R. Baron, that had a long history of regulatory run-ins and customer complaints. Among the issues being investigated are the links between executives of Baron and Bear Stearns, and whether Bear Stearns took unusual steps that allowed A.R. Baron to stay in business.

Bear Stearns has denied any wrongdoing. In a filing earlier this month with the SEC, the firm said that "various regulatory and governmental agencies" were investigating some of its clients in addition to Baron.

Last month, the New York Stock Exchange voted to require clearing firms to monitor the trading at their client firms and to pass along to regulators any complaints they receive.

James Cayne, the president of Bear Stearns, responded that such requirements would expose his firm to too much legal liability and would cause it to cut back or abandon the clearing business.

While clearing is a very profitable business for big firms, it is not without risk. Fidelity's National Financial unit is on the hook for $9 million in trades that were done through one of its clients, a firm called Saperston Financial of Buffalo. Saperston collapsed after a customer refused to pay for 2 million shares of a Vancouver company called H&R Enterprises.

On Oct. 8, National Financial filed lawsuits in Florida and British Columbia against a bevy of firms and individuals that it said were involved in defrauding Saperston, according to court filings.

Canadian and U.S. regulators are investigating H&R, whose stock they suspect was manipulated. The shares, which traded in the United States on Nasdaq's electronic bulletin board, zoomed from just pennies a share in July to almost $7 in September before collapsing to less than 50 cents.



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:29:00 PM
From: Riley G  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 55532
 
Subject: Reasons

Riley, feel free to post, not post, edit, change, etc. this message. As you are comm central and well informed, I have confidence in your decisions regarding relaying my sometimes too lengthy E-mails.

Preponderance of evidence that OVIS will fly:

1. Massive naked short position. Simple arithmetic looking at past volume confirms this. Some people who count volume haven't even taken into account the die hard buy and holders from pre-split days (I am one of these and there are quite a few others).

2. Cartel rough figure estimates based on sharing of information by shareholders far outnumber the authorized float - so much so that even a massive degree of inaccuracy on the part of the cartel still outnumbers the authorized float. Early Cartel rough estimates which were low and didn't include non SI/Cartel supporters, don't even include the million or so shares bought and called for since last Fridays "call your cert message"!

3. More people are buying and calling certs every day.

4. Shares outstanding are confirmed by transfer agent.

5. Wildcard shares are locked up in treasury account and pension plan.

6. The company supports the investors and promises not to distribute more shares.

7. The market makers have requested more shares from the company who firmly replied "No way!". These are desperate actions that reveal much about the mms situation. It doesn't take a sherlock to see mm desperation in this request for more shares.

8. The market makers have manipulated the price drastically since profound interest in the stock and certificate calling have begun. If the market makers were doing fine as some have implied, they would not be dropping the ask on buys, passing over market orders to sweep up cheap shares, selling below ask limits to confound investors, etc. We have seen the price drop on buy/sell ratios of greater than 10 to 1. That is called unethical market manipulation, and if you are a mm, you don't risk doing it unless you are in incredible trouble. Here is a simple rule: MARKET MANIPULATION ON GROWING STOCKS = MARKET MAKERS IN TROUBLE

9. The preponderance of naysayers actually confirm the validity of the cartels position. We are forced to wonder, if the OVIS shareholders are such dupes, and we are going to loose so much money (save me please) why then the constant attacks by non-shareholders and people who haven't ever been heard from before. Why the new faces with misinformation? This had occurred to the degree of cartel members receiving threats. People don't threaten you just for being stupid. Once again, it doesn't take a sherlock to see the determination being mustered against a bunch of innocent investors simply legally calling for their certificates. Why are so many resources being marshalled to stop a bunch of investors from doing what is perfectly reasonable? Explain again why is it now that I shouldn't buy shares of a
company I like and call for my certs? It is a good sign of mm desperation. here is another simple rule: UNSOLICITED AND UNSUPPORTED NEGATIVITY FROM STRANGERS WHO DON"T REALLY LOVE YOU = SCARED SHORTERS

10. Inherent value of OVIS. A couple weeks ago this stock sold for 19 cents. At 1.6 million shares it had a market cap of about 300,000 dollars. About the price of a nice single family dwelling. Get real. If this reflected OVIS value, Hard Core would have sued them for slander for even implying that they were doing a deal. Banks would have laughed at them when they asked for capital instead of setting them up with excellent financing. You can't start a halfway decent chicken stand for 300,000 dollars if you plan on having plates and silverware too. Ovis earnings, assets, tax credits, and client base are those of a company firmly worth a minimum of 2.50 per share, and that is if they were never ever planning on growing! Counting for growth,future profitability, common PE valuations etc, the company is worth around 15. There are companies that loose more money per share than OVIS costs per share that sell for 50+ dollars per share. Simple rule: Simple rule: COMPANIES THAT CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS DESPITE DEVALUED SHARES AND MARKET CAP HAVE EXCELLENT RESOURCES AND MANAGEMENT.

11. Past value of OVIS. BAck when this company had poor management, the market still valued it at prices that are dramatic multiples of it's current price. Most of you can't remember back when people were gobbling up millions of shares of OVIS at 14 cents per share PRE SPLIT! because the evidence for future profitability was there. Back then, 14 cents a share was considered a bargain basement deal on this company. Of course no one knew back then that when the company split in order to get on a bigger board that a bunch of manipulative mms would do everything they could to kill this stock rather than loose money covering their naked shorts. The company did the unthinkable, and accidentally made money. oooopps!!! Simple rule: COMPANIES THAT MAKE MONEY ARE WORTH MONEY.

If you are in OVIS, you picked a great time to be here. Statistics show that only one out of three companies survive two years past startup. Of those who make it, the average time to profitability is 3 - 5 years. OVIS has finally made it. The preponderance of evidence that this stock will fly is uncommon and fantastic. Investors can wait years for situations like these to happen. Should you mortgage your home? no. Should you go buy a Mercedes? no. Should you count your chickens before they hatch? no. Should you hold this stock into the thirties? Darn right.



To: Pugs who wrote (19597)11/18/1997 7:34:00 PM
From: Riley G  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 55532
 
Yes folks, the nays are here to get YOU to sell your shares with any lie or act of decite that they can muster up.

The nays and shorts now that the company is about to release the 10 million dollar cash infusion news and they want to slam it prior to the release in an attempot to cover some of the short position that is out here in the RMIL stock.

Long shareholders need to protect their investiments by calling those certificates and causing the shorts to BUY-IN.

I have not ran away, but I as well as all other shareholders have a life outside this SI forum and do not need to spend some 20 hours a day watching this message group to see what LIE the nays come up with next.

Hit the shorts were it hurts. It the pocket book. I could care less who the shorts are, but they must pay the price of trying to create a terminal short in RMIL.

Let's dance Shorts!
Riley G
718-331-1960