To: TobagoJack who wrote (78692 ) 8/28/2011 10:48:35 PM From: Metacomet 26 Recommendations Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 217820 Not sure why you are so bitter toward the US. You are an adequately astute individual to recognize the political power plays and posturing of the various aspirants to power in the US. As much as we are often crude in our dealings with others, there was a time, a short decade or two ago when at a minimum, it would have been unbelievable, to most of the world that the US would engage in torture. One truly has to wonder how it could have happened to the US. When an incompetent, unpopular president has the political "good fortune" for a "Pearl Harbor" event to magically occur, simultaneously generating a complete "free pass" for anything they would do thereafter, but also cause hundreds of billions of dollars to flow into a nascent US arms industry. Of which Haliburton, co-incidentally, was a principal beneficiary. An act followed by the even more demoralizing re-election of this rube, who happened to have advisers historically astute enough to observe that no American president is ever voted out of office during a war. So they made one. This undeclared "conflict", the only plausible reason for which was as a re-election campaign ploy so Bush could continue to nurture his "base". And now we are in this relatively small country that has felt the brunt of "shock and awe", aka the re-election fireworks show, where there has been massive collateral damage, the loss of hundreds if not thousands of Iraqi women and children who only knew Saddam as a billboard. So some of these Iraqi guys get upset with the US and try to make us leave their place. So obviously we needed to round up a lot of these pissed off guys and let the low level enlisted people torture them. That was and is the total loss of morality the US underwent as a result of the outcome of a stolen election and the assumption of the halls of power by men, so totally and thoroughly driven by greed that nothing was outside their moral constraints. And they only made about $200,000 a year or so. So why would you harbor any grudge against against the good old US. .