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To: Brumar89 who wrote (15919)	8/28/2011 8:46:58 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

"Any account of something that happened 2000 years ago is going to be 2000 years old. What no one can deny is that the people who knew Jesus the best, including his disciples and his family, became believers in his resurrection soon after his death. Furthermore, they were so sure of this they were willing to sacrifice their lives for telling the story to everyone they could." The problem is the story got bigger in the telling and incorporated lots of other stories to make it even bigger and less accurate. The story was controlled by the Romans and used to condone everything from the Crusades to Cortez. What we know of the life and death of Jesus is mostly a fabrication.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (15919)	8/29/2011 1:15:02 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Any account of something that happened 2000 years ago is going to be 2000 years old. What no one can deny is that the people who knew Jesus the best, including his disciples and his family, became believers in his resurrection soon after his death. If this is your story & tradition you wish to believe that's fine & heroic but also need to recognize the fuller scope of these stories in the context of human cultures & story telling that goes back perhaps 50-60,000yrs to our origins in Africa when language begins to develope . The basic syntactic forms of employing subject-object-verb thru which more complex ideas can be expressed , shared & preserved . And later on , written ...speech was not always with us . ( the gift of tongues!) There's already noted in many other earlier cultures there were these creation stories, conquering hero stories & tales of mass destruction...the search for eternal life . All humans share the same genes with just the tiniest differences just as they share the same dreams of power , glory, abundance , fear of death & disease dreams of eternal spring . These are just part of the natural conditions surrounding them and also since part of 1000's of generations & lives lived are part of the actual wirings of our brain. The fear of death is as old as man himself. Uncertainty and anxiety over one's mortality and helplessness have always and will always be with us in our brains ....some wish to cling/believe in an all-knowing God or Gods that in so many prior stories always sends a demi-god son as the "Savior". *Gilgamesh who survived the "Great Flood" and "KIng of Kings"* Before Christianity there is one of the 1rst known recorded stories of Gilgamesh out of Summaria we find written here, that he was a "demi-god " of superhuman strength who builds huge walls to protect & "save" the people from external threats.He was described as two-thirds god and one third man yet even he grapples with this fear of mortality en.wikipedia.org *Gilgamesh is a* *demigod* *of superhuman strength who built the city walls of Uruk to defend his people from external threats, and travelled to meet the sage* *Utnapishtim, who had survived the* Great Deluge**. He is usually described as two-thirds god and one third man."Despair is in my heart...I am afraid of death...As for us men, our days are numbered, our occupations are a breath of wind." The epic was originally titled He who Saw the Deep (Sha naqba imuru) or Surpassing All Other Kings (Shutur eli sharri), which are the first few words of the epic in different versions.