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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (28)8/29/2011 12:12:08 PM
From: Paul Smith1 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 85487
 
the type makes them say that they are running because "God told them to"

I haven't seen Perry claiming that God talks to him. Have you seen quotes like that are is that something you fear might be the case?
Steve, I think you are focusing on the wrong things. Suppose the next President is a religious person. What are you concerned will happen? I'm assuming that many former presidents that you admire were religious people.
I don't care if a candidate is a Mormon or a Catholic or a Hindu. I'm more concerned about what their actions might be with regard to the fiscal mess that the country is in. Will they try to reduce the deficit? How much spending are they willing to cut? Do they have the courage to address tax reform and entitlement reform?



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (28)8/29/2011 8:06:06 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
Perry has called himself "a firm believer in intelligent design as a matter of faith and intellect", and has expressed support for its teaching alongside evolution in Texas schools but also that "educators and local school officials, not the governor, should determine science curriculum." [92] When asked about evolution, Perry responded: "Well, God is how we got here. God may have done it in the blink of the eye or he may have done it over this long period of time, I don't know. But I know how it got started."

I just hear a politician treading carefully with the demands of his own faith and the sensibilities of the fundamentalists. The fudging says to me that he does believe in evolution but doesn't want to say so for fear of giving offense, so "intelligent design," which tries to keep a foot in both camps, becomes the cover story. It's very elastic. The fundamentalists think it means Creationism, while others think it means that God's will plays out in the course of history, which is standard Christian belief.



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (28)8/30/2011 3:30:22 AM
From: KLP3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
What are you afraid of Steve? Here's Harry S. Truman on Religion in America....

246 - Radio Address as Part of the Program "Religion in American Life"
October 30, 1949

Harry S. Truman
1949 Location:



The American Presidency Project

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[Broadcast from the White House at 11:25 p.m.] Fellow citizens: The United States has been a deeply religious Nation from its earliest beginnings. The need which the founders of our country felt--the need to be free to worship God, each man in his own way--was one of the strongest impulses that brought men from Europe to the New World. As the pioneers carved a civilization from the forest, they set a pattern which has lasted to our time. First, they built homes and then, knowing the need for religion in their daily lives, they built churches. When the United States was established, its coins bore witness to the American faith in a benevolent deity. The motto then was "In God We Trust." That is still our motto and we, as a people, still place our firm trust in God. Building on this foundation of faith, the United States has grown from a small country in the wilderness to a position of great strength and great responsibility among the family of nations.

Other countries look today to the United States for leadership in the ways of peace, and it is our task to meet that challenge. I am convinced that we are strong enough to meet the challenge. We are strong enough because we have a profound religious faith. The basic source of our strength as a nation is spiritual. We believe in the dignity of man. We believe that he is created in the image of God, who is the Father of us all. It is this faith that makes us determined that every citizen in our own land shall have an equal right and an equal opportunity to grow in wisdom and in stature, and to play his part in the affairs of our Nation. It is this faith that makes us respect the right of men everywhere to worship as they please and to live their own lives free from the fear of tyranny and strife. It is this faith that inspires us to work for a world in which life will be more worthwhile--a world of tolerance, unselfishness, and brotherhood--a world that lives according to the precepts of the Sermon on the Mount. I believe that every problem in the world today could be solved if men would only live by the principles of the ancient prophets and the Sermon on the Mount. Each one of us can do his part by a renewed devotion to his religion.

If there is any danger to the religious life of our Nation, it lies in our taking our religious heritage too much for granted. Religion is not a static thing. It exists not in buildings, but in the minds and hearts of our people. Religion is like freedom. We cannot take it for granted. Man--to be free--must work at it. And man--to be truly religious--must work at that, too. Unless men live by their faith, and practice that faith in their daily lives, religion cannot be a living force in the world today. That is why each of us has a duty to participate-actively-in the religious life of his community and to support generously his own religious institutions. Just as an active faith sustained and guided the pioneers in conquering the wilderness, so today an active faith will sustain and guide us as we work for a just peace, freedom for all, and a world where human life is truly held sacred.

Religious faith and religious work must be our reliance as we strive to fulfill our destiny in the world.

Note: The President spoke at 11:25 p.m. from the Projection Room at the White House, following an introduction by Charles E. Wilson, president of the General Electric Company, who served as chairman of the nationwide, interfaith campaign, "Religion in American Life." The campaign ran from November 1-24, 1949.
Citation: John T. Woolley and Gerhard Peters, The American Presidency Project [online]. Santa Barbara, CA. Available from World Wide Web: presidency.ucsb.edu.

Read more at the American Presidency Project: www.presidency.ucsb.edu presidency.ucsb.edu