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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (215467)	8/30/2011 10:39:59 AM
From: T L Comiskey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361141

Imagine IF we had waterboarded... "CurveBall"..pre invasion..... Or even..Cheney..himself.. Former VP Cheney defends practice of waterboarding AP WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Vice President Dick Cheney says there's no contradiction in advocating harsh interrogation tactics against suspected U.S. enemies and opposing those practices when used against American citizens. Cheney was asked about a hypothetical case in which Iran would decide to use waterboarding on an American suspected of spying. Cheney replies, "I think we would object on the grounds that we have obligations to our citizens." Cheney, who is promoting his new memoir "In My Time," has been associated with waterboarding, considered by many to be torture. Asked on NBC's "Today" show if he was embracing a double-standard, he said, "These are not American citizens." In the interview that aired Tuesday morning, Cheney also conceded he'd been a lightning rod for criticism during the Bush administration. "I'm Darth Vader," he said

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (215467)	8/30/2011 12:19:25 PM
From: koan	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 361141

<<"Obama is a totally pragmatic politician pure and simple. Whatever it takes to stay on power and rule is all that matters and no fucking loose cannons." So why are his poll ratings so bad? Ain't doing what it takes to get re-elected. He needs to listen to us. The other way is dangerous in his mind. He can't see how that will work. Polls people around him. But part of it is also the established politico's do know how to fight, the day to day fights, and problems which are so much of governing. In governing crises is an every day event. And they are people he is more comfortable with. I guess he likes being aroudn guys like Rahm Sperling and Daley. Personally, I find them all replusive. Besides that, I think he is a control freak. Remember he liked lining up the kids in grammer school and marching them out the door to the playground and he did make the Harvard Law review and he volunterred for a black calander of guys? when at Harvard (he was turned down) . But if we ever needed the big thinkers it is right now. And I know for sure he dised both Krugman and Stiglitz which really bothers me. FDR sought out Keynes to solve the depression. Obama should seek out Krugman, Stiglitz and Rogoff.