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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (111696)8/31/2011 7:55:44 AM
From: TideGlider4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224749
 
That was only one issue in the article, but since you replied only to the one longshort delected, what do you suppose they have been doing for an entire year?

Farther north in Seattle, stimulus funds are also being wasted. A $20 million federal grant for home weatherization has, according to KOMO news, retrofitted only three houses and created 14 jobs in more than a year.

Here is a more detailed article.

Seattle green jobs program creates only 14 jobs after $20 million federal grant
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    Joe Newby, Spokane Conservative Examiner
    August 29, 2011 -
    How many jobs could be created with $20 million?

    If one is talking about so-called "green jobs" in Seattle, the answer is 14.

    Fox News reported Monday that 16 months after a $20 million federal grant for home weatherization was awarded, only 14 people were put to work, and most of those were administrative positions.

    After doing the math, that calculates to $1,428,571.43 per job.

    Worse yet, only three homes in the area were upgraded.

    Todd Myers, author of "Eco Fads," told Fox News the "jobs are not there."

    "So we're training people for jobs that don't exist," he added.

    KOMO notes that the grant, received on the eve of Earth Day, had the goal of creating 2,000 "living wage" in Seattle, and retrofitting 2,000 homes in poorer neighborhoods.

    Vanessa Ho writes that as of early August, "337 homeowners had applied for the program. Fourteen had gotten a loan, or were in the process of getting one."

    So far, the Washington Athletic Club and a few hospitals have been retrofitted.

    KOMO reports:

    But will the city hit its goals? Curtis was hopeful Seattle would make it by 2013, when the funding ends. Greenwich, of Puget Sound Sage, said the city needs to retrofit 100 to 200 homes a month to create 2,000 jobs. Woo, of Got Green, thinks the city needs to throw more money on incentives.


    Fox Reports:

    Seattle is not alone. The Department of Energy has allocated $508 million to 41 states for its Better Buildings Neighborhood Program and 600 jobs have been created or retained.

    The agency, however, says it is pleased with the progress so far, but notes that different communities advance their programs at different rates.

    The goal is to weatherize 150,000 homes in three years, saving homeowners $65 million annually in energy costs. So far, the government has fallen short of its goal. After the first year, only 9,000 homes have been upgraded.

    Fox notes that Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn says it is too early to call the program a failure.
    "We may have to adjust how we market it and the incentives we provide," he said. "Nobody has really cracked the green jobs code."

    Fox adds:

    Contractors who do the energy audits and home retrofits blame government for getting in the way. To be a participating business in Seattle, the contractor is required to pay workers $21 an hour with full benefits, including retirement pay. But according to several small business owners in the area, the prevailing wage for new workers who lay insulation is $12. per hour.

    McGinn, however, insisted that allowing contractors to pay anything less than what the city has declared a ‘living wage', amounts to a 'race to the bottom' for jobs.


    Fox also notes that homeowners will see very little return on their investment.

    The weatherization upgrades are aimed at saving 15 percent on energy consumption. If the retrofit costs $10,000 even with all the government incentives, it will take over 30 years to pay off through lower energy bills.

    "The problem is the policies the politicians choose, whether green jobs or retrofits, are based on appearance," Myers said. "They choose things that look good, rather than what's best for the environment."

    Toledo, Kansas City and Phoenix are also having trouble fulfilling the "green jobs" promise, having created only 72 jobs with $65 million in federal grant money.

    In Nevada, 1.72 permanent jobs were created after the federal government spent nearly $500,000. Fox reports:

    In 2009, the U.S. Forest Service awarded $490,000 of stimulus money to Nevada's Clark County Urban Forestry Revitalization Project, aimed at revitalizing urban neighborhoods in the county with trees, plants, and green-industry training.

    According to Recovery.gov, the U.S. government's official website related to Recovery Act spending, the project created 1.72 permanent jobs. In addition, the Nevada state Division of Forestry reported the federal grant generated one full-time temporary job and 11 short-term project-oriented jobs.

    At one time, President Obama said he wanted to create 5 million "green" jobs.

    At an average cost of $900,000 per job, his dream would cost $4.5 trillion - and that is over and above everything else Obama wants to spend.

    Imagine how many "millionaires," i.e., those making over $250,000, would have to be taxed for that program.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com Seattle green jobs program creates only 14 jobs after $20 million federal grant - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com examiner.com



    To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (111696)8/31/2011 8:28:26 AM
    From: locogringo2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224749
     
    loco, the article does not state how much money was spent. It says there was a $20 million grant but how much of that was spent?

    I know that you think Texas is abnormal, and that you do do things differently in the Pacific Northwest, kenny, but weatherproofing 3 houses in one year is pretty pathetic...............even if Obama did all by himself.

    I don't know how much they spent, and at 3 houses/year I won't live long enough to ever find out or care when they finish.



    To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (111696)8/31/2011 5:37:48 PM
    From: locogringo3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224749
     
    Yo, kenny_troll, do you remember those Unions in Wisconsin? They need your help in cheating the people like they used to do.

    Wisconsin schools buck union to cut health costs

    "It's going to save us about $690,000 in 2011-2012," says Schilling. Insurance costs that had been about $2.5 million a year will now be around $1.8 million. What union leaders said would be a catastrophe will in fact be a boon to teachers and students.

    But the effect of weakening collective bargaining goes beyond money. It also has the potential to reshape the adversarial culture that often afflicts public education.

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: washingtonexaminer.com

    OH NO.........here's another one for ya, kenny_troll.

    The Unions won't put their money where their BIG MOUTHS are:

    WAUSAU, Wis. - The Marathon County Labor Council has reversed a decision that excluded Republican politicians from participating in the Labor Day parade in Wausau. Labor Council President Randy Radtke earlier said Republican elected officials were not invited because they supported changes to collective bargaining for public employee unions. Wausau Mayor Jim Tipple responded by threatening to withhold financial support for the parade unless everyone was allowed to participate. WSAW-TV says Radtke released a statement Wednesday which said the Labor Council didn't want community groups and school bands affected, so Republicans will be allowed in the parade.

    Tipple told WLS Radio's Bruce Wolf and Dan Proft show Tuesday that the city provides an insurance premium, a stage setup and police traffic control for the parade. Tipple said the city would have required the Labor Council to reimburse the city for those expenses if it didn't reverse its decision.

    wlsam.com