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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (626660)9/2/2011 5:46:17 AM
From: one_less1 Recommendation  Respond to of 1587798
 
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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (626660)9/2/2011 5:46:31 AM
From: one_less1 Recommendation  Respond to of 1587798
 
"The general public is incredibly diverse in cultural backgrounds and opinions. How can you possibly speak for all of them?"

I speak only for my self, and have frequently stated such over the years. If I have given the impression that I speak for others or a group, I have failed to communicate my position accurately. I am not an advocate for any particular group and attempt to maintain an independent view of things. I am conservative in lifestyle, while considering new circumstance, change, and the future with an openly liberal perspective.

I've done my best to offer information on this strand of discussion which is factual and verifiable. You are correct 'Mainstream Islam' is not easily defined and any attempt (mine included) deserves to be challenged. I concede on this, except to say, we should refer to general culture rather than anomalous heinous events. There are diverse camps holding conflicting perspectives on what is mainstream so that any one claim about the mainstream of Islam beyond a few basic religious pillars is not representative of something that could be called mainstream. The claim that heinous actions are prevalent and representative is clearly wrong headed, obviously politically agendised, and equally unfounded in the same light. Same as the American culture is diverse and even though there are lots of problems with crime including heinous acts, it is not representative of Americans or America's diverse populations ... other than referring to criminals as a sub-group of course. At the same time we could call radical violent Muslim extremists who commit heinous acts a sub-group, but that was not the premise for this strand of discussion. In the midst of this context, I've tried to poke a hole in the fog of ignorant bigotry, probably a mistake on my part. I knew who and what I was dealing with and the unlikely possibility that I would have an impact, fog is not influenced by pokes and by its nature will immediately overwhelm such attempts. Not that nothing can be done to dispell fog but poking at is, is not a productive use of one's time.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (626660)9/2/2011 6:01:47 AM
From: one_less1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1587798
 
"I really don't know what is considered "mainstream Islam." Perhaps the modern version that Muslims in the Western world practice could and should be considered as such.

But I'm sorry to say that Muslims living in the Western world are a minority compared to those living in the Middle East and central Asia."


Look a little deeper and you will see that most have lots of extended relations in those other corners of the world. They have a great influence on them. As much as the elders (over there) preach about a return to fundamental old ways the trends do not support it. The parents (over there) complain that their kids are becoming 'Americanized' by all this and social networking and such. Yet the adults are also gradually adopting modern attitudes. Is any one still thinking we will go back to spears or bows and arrows? C'mon have a little faith and patience. Eyes and ears are in operation, heinous and brutal acts are seen for what they are, positive change is taking place more rapidly than most people can imagine. These days one generation can work through and accept the same modernization, it has taken us hundreds of years to develop and adjust to. We have the educational resources and technology to make that happen and we are but not with out a few bumps along the way.