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To: Meathead who wrote (22031)11/18/1997 11:54:00 PM
From: Paul Merriwether  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
<<Try
performing a pin escape on a 500pin BGA with 15mil ball
edge spacing>>
I dint know pII etc. were even using BGA's. I thought they were using
slot1 etc(so the challenge you describe above should not be faced
by Dell/any pc manufacturer(unless my premise above is incorrect)).

<<Potential for prototypes
being dead in the water is very
high unless you simulate everything. It didn't use to
be this way.
>>
Sure was not! I actually used to spice simulate the "critical signals"
(signals that were pushing physical limits). For me, thermal and
emi were not issues, but physical stuff like transmissionline,
groundbounce, crosstalk etc. were. Also, since my stuff was for
grad research, I never needed to make more than 100 boards.

<<I've been developing PC motherboards for just over 10 years
and they are far more challanging today than just 2 years ago. I will beat anyone over the head relentlessly with this stuff
until they realize designing a dense, state of the art motherboard
is no etch-a-sketch connect the dots endeavour.
>>

OK. Point taken. I've been out of board level stuff for a while(I am
an ASIC designer) and
am probably dating myself with my explanations of PCB design! The
PCB stuff that we(someone else in my group) do is not very
significant.