To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (704 ) 9/3/2011 6:38:34 PM From: Nadine Carroll 6 Recommendations Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487 Look, Nadine, I concede some scientists blew it. It still doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the science community think the data on Global warming suggests a link between man made activity and the warming. "a link," or "some link" like your survey asked about, may be widely believed, but it's a far cry from "a link" to the AGW scare -- that man-made CO2 is going to make temperatures rise 5 degrees C in a hundred years. Everybody concedes there is a greenhouse effect and CO2 is a greenhouse gas. But it's a minor greenhouse gas (water vapor is the biggie) and the man-made increase in CO2 is itself small. It's easy to say that human activity has some link with warming, but the burden of proof really should be on the AGW alarmists to show that the climate is so sensitive to CO2 that there is a strong positive coefficient to the feedback loop, which is what they have programmed into their models. Because if the climate isn't so sensitive, and the coefficient is neither positive nor negative, then doubling CO2 from 300 ppm to 600 ppm is predicted to make global temps rise by about 1 degree C. Which is nobody's idea of a disaster. And more CO2 in the atmosphere will benefit agriculture. Since nobody can directly measure the coefficient, nobody really knows if it is positive or negative. The AGW crowd theorizes it's positive. And based on their theories, the AGW alarmists want the developed world to wreck their economies, spend trillions on reducing "carbon emissions" and pay billions in 'spread the wealth' reparations to the third world. I don't think so. I think the whole scare is grinding to a halt as the promised soaring temps fail to arrive and a global recession gives people more important stuff to worry about. Nice try, watermelons.