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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (627539)9/9/2011 7:17:28 PM
From: Alighieri  Read Replies (7) | Respond to of 1585090
 
I mean, we're all frustrated by political gridlock. Ted, however, takes his frustration out in ways that are completely destructive, both to himself and to American society in general.

You're gonna have to do better than the post you referenced to support that overarching statement...ted is the target of every wing nutcase on the thread...i don't blame him for goading now and then.

Al



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (627539)9/10/2011 11:06:33 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1585090
 
>> I mean, we're all frustrated by political gridlock.

For the most part, I find Gridlock to be the best moments for our government. I don't want Congress to be passing legislation, because everytime they do they take away our freedom.

Obamacare being a perfect example.

If they could come together and do reasonable things, I'd be frustrated when they didn't; but this isn't their history. If you look back 25 years, you see very few instances where Congress functioned as a body to do good things for this country. Looking back today, there was the period right after 9/11, before that, Welfare Reform, before that, the Gulf War, before that, Tax Reform of 86. There are few instances where really good legislation happened as a result of political cooperation.

If you think about it, each of these measures involved serious leadership (generally, by the president). We just have no shot at that now.

Obama should be leading on abolishing/reforming the War on Drugs -- which is already a real, shooting war on our southern border (40,000 dead) and which is dangerously close to becoming a MILITARY war with U.S. involvement. That war could be stopped instantly by Obama declaring marijuana legal by virtue of issuing blanket pardons to every nonviolent marijuana offender (which would collapse the law enforcement efforts against marijuana, effectively making it legal, and totally disrupt the cartels; a side-benefit would be a cleansing of our jails making room for violent offenders who are now turned out early to allow room for marijuana smokers and minor dealers). He should be using the bully pulpit to convey to the American people how the drug war has become a self-sustaining, directionless, failed policy. Instead, he's doing what?

I guess you could say we have "bigger problems", but I"m not sure that we do. The real problem is we have no leadership.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (627539)9/10/2011 5:00:24 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1585090
 
I mean, we're all frustrated by political gridlock.

You're a liar. You are not frustrated. You and your fellow Rs want gridlock. Its the only chance you see of winning next year.

Ted, however, takes his frustration out in ways that are completely destructive, both to himself and to American society in general.

Up above, you said you were frustrated. Now you are projecting whatever you are feeling onto me.......and truth be told, I don't think you have a very good command over your feelings. So stop doing it. Its get you nowhere. I am nowhere close to the kind person you are. I am far more honest with myself and with others.

And I am not frustrated by gridlock......at least not in the way you think. American conservatives had 8 years to prove their value after Clinton. They failed miserably. However, not one of you has ever admitted publicly to that effect. That tells me the quality of the people with whom I am dealing. Not one of you has tried to learn from the mistakes that Bush made. Not a single one of you. That tells me the caliber of the people with whom I am dealing.

Instead, you cheer idiots like Palin, Bachmann, Cantor, et al. You push the tenets of your ideology ad nauseum even as they have proven not to work. In the meantime, the country and its economy grow worse through your objections and obstructionism. You insult Obama in ways that would have unleashed considerable fury had Bush been treated in the same way. Many of you are racists.......the rest of you condone racist slurs against the president. You questioned his citizenship in the most insulting of ways. Its enough.

So then, I am not frustrated........I want you all gone. That's why I encourage you to secede. There are two Americas in this country now.......and they can no longer co exist. I think civil war would be a costly and troubling mistake. The decent thing to do is agree we don't get along and go our separate ways. A divorce.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (627539)9/10/2011 5:27:55 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1585090
 
And when I talking caliber of person, this is what I mean:

>> Do you want Obama to fail?

I do.


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You people are not very nice........not very nice at all. And a real problem for this country.