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To: DrBill who wrote (4360)9/13/2011 6:49:10 PM
From: DrBill  Respond to of 4690
 
COMING: A GOLD & SILVER TSUNAMI
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Yesterday's Top Story: Goldrunner: Predicting a gold and silver tsunami - Technical analysis

An interpretation of fractal technical analysis charts for precious metals suggests a significant breakout may be imminent for gold and silver bullion and stocks with leverage returning to the latter with a vengeance
Author: Goldrunner
Posted: Monday , 12 Sep 2011



TORONTO -

A tsunami doesn't start with a bang, but with a whimper. The first sign is a little hump in the water way out in the distance that is barely notable. Anyone who catches a glimpse of it simply continues to expect the day to be the same as the last many days - calm and beautiful waters along the shore. This is the point where we are, today in the Precious Metals (PM) sector. Many have seen the little roll of water out in the distance as Gold edged up in the first move of a more parabolic slope, yet most investors are mired in the same expectations of yesterday - a return for Gold to correct down into a lower base.

As far as the PM Bull goes, the vast majority of investors are still sitting on their hands - eyes glued to the television - as the global economic mess unwinds driving the Precious Metals from a little bump on the horizon to a 15 foot wall that will engulf them. As with all tsunamis, the vast majority of investors will pause in wonder over the growing wave as it comes closer, but they will not take action until the PM wall is 15 feet high and coming right at them. In reality, that huge PM wave will represent an unseen wave of devaluation of everything they own so eventually, like all tsunamis, the majority of investors will react - all at the same time. Those late-comers to the PM sector will grab charts of Gold, of Silver, and of the PM stocks to see that so far in this PM bull prices have tended to correct back to the mean, so they will decide to wait for a steep correction to get in. Yet, they won't get a steep correction to their liking and will be forced to "chase" as the Gold parabola continues to accelerate to the upside. It was much the same in the late 1970s.

As mentioned within the chart of the HUI Index below, we have now reached the inflection point where Gold has busted up and out of the rising channel that Gold has traded in since early 2009. As Gold takes a more parabolic route above the cost level of the Gold miners, we expect the Gold producers as represented by the HUI Index, to bust up and through the stiff resistance of its own channel line as represented by the pink line in the chart below. This is how the real PM stock bull presented in the late 70's at the same fractal time and price relationship. We had anticipated the last important HUI double bottom at around the 100-week exponential moving average, and the price has now broken out to the upside confirmed by break-outs in the RSI and the MACD with all the moving averages turning up. It just doesn't get any better than this!



REVIEW OF OUR EXPECTATIONS TO DATE

1) A major bottom for the PM stock indices is now firmly in place as we laid out for subscribers to our service early in the week of August 8th based on the fractal relationship to 1979.

2) Price and the technical Indicator readings continue to track the 1970's PM stocks up into new highs with much higher prices to go. In fact, we expect this run to be the first, and smallest, of 3 momentum runs to come for the PM stock indices. The mid-900s appear to be a realistic target for the HUI Index into year-end, or into early 2012.

3) A break-out to new highs with a successful re-test now appears to be in place for the PM stock indices. We have reached the point in the cycle where leverage returns to the PM stocks with a vengeance exactly like the late 1970s charts.

4) Our expectation that a "high level consolidation" for Gold is enough to start the early momentum break-out and run for the PM stock indices at this point appears to be on target. That expectation was based upon the fact that the price of Gold is now much higher than the cost of production for the Gold producers and higher than the price of Gold that caused an increase in the earnings for the last quarter since the PM stock indices are dominated by large cap gold producers.

5) Gold moving to a new high early this week negates the probability of new lows for this correction but fuels massive volatility in price as many try to see a "double top" based on the past metrics of the current Gold bull. The metrics for Gold's historic bull market have now changed, and expectations for a double top will likely morph into what will eventually be seen as one of the biggest momentum runs for Gold in history that mimics the 70's Gold charts that we have provided.

6) The fundamentals for Gold are off the charts on a world-wide basis at this time, yet many focus on the past metrics of this current Gold bull to fear a sharp drop in Gold. They will continue to worry all the way up, and will be surprised by the rise in the price of Gold that leaves the past metrics in the dust as most nations ramp up the printing presses to stave off dismal economies.

7) The only true reflection of the degree of dollar devaluation at hand is seen in the Gold chart as the US Dollar is massively devalued against Gold. The Dollar Index will generally drift lower like the late 1970s since it is a pricing scheme where the US Dollar is "priced" against a basket of other paper currencies that are also being aggressively devalued. As the dollar is continually devalued so is everything else that you own that is denominated in dollars. We believe that the best way to protect yourself and the buying power of your savings is via PM investments of all kinds- owning Gold, Silver, and the PM stocks.

8) The big funds who have been long Gold and short the PM stocks need great volatility in the Gold price at this time to try to reverse that trade if Gold is not going to trade lower. The short covering in the large cap Gold stocks pushes the PM stock indices up to new highs as Gold consolidates. We suspect that another sharp move higher in Gold is on our door step- one that will accelerate the Gold and Silver stock short-covering, driving the PM stock indices higher in a momentum run as shorts are forced to cover into higher prices.

9) Silver will lag Gold to some extent in this time-frame since we have already seen the analogous first parabolic leg up in Silver. Nevertheless, we expect to see Silver run back to new highs in a similar multiple topping process as we have shown in the fractal charts for Silver in 1979 and in 2006. Thus, we retain the $52 to $56 price objectives for Silver in that multiple topping process with the potential for Silver to spike up into the low 60s.

10) It just doesn't get any better than this since it appears that we have finally reached the early part of the "cycle sweet spot" for investing in the PM stocks per the 70's Charts. As we have noted, we expect the large cap Gold producers to out-perform along with the mid-tier producers and near-producers. The usual sub-sector rotations will eventually begin as we saw back in the fractal period 2002.

11) The large cap Gold stocks and the producing, or near-producing, mid-tier Gold stocks, should lead the way for this momentum leg higher. Silver should run up to new highs to fulfill our earlier expectations per the 2006 secondary fractal Silver Chart. $52 to $56 should be achievable for silver, with $58 to $62 as real possibilities.

12) There is a good possibility that we will need to raise our targets for Gold for this momentum run as put forth in our article last week entitled Goldrunner: The "GOLDEN PARABOLA" & "SILVER ROCKET" Technical analysis: The start of a precious metal momentum move Update article posted last week on this site but we will wait to see how the next run upward in Gold to the expected $2250 level plays out to see the price structure in comparison to the 1970s. $3,000 Gold, or higher, might be in play for this run depending on how the price of Gold moves over the next month, or so.

13) Big money is coming into the large cap PM stocks as seen by "volume leading price." This is very different from what we have mostly seen to date in this PM stock bull - all except for a few momentum runs over the last decade.

Summary

1. The mid-900s appear to be a realistic target for the HUI Index into year-end, or into early 2012.

2. $52 to $56 should be achievable for silver, with $58 to $62 as real possibilities.

3. The next run upward in Gold suggests the $2250 level followed by $2500 with the potential for $3,000, or a bit higher, now on the radar screen.

To keep abreast of daily developments in what is happening with physical gold and silver, various PM indices and specific gold and silver mining and royalty stocks you can subscribe to Goldrunner's service here. To read more of public access articles please go here.

Please understand that the above is just the opinion of a small fish in a large sea. None of the above is intended as investment advice, but merely an opinion of the potential of what might be. Simply put: the above is a matter of opinion and is not intended as investment advice. Information and analysis above are derived from sources and utilizing methods believed reliable, but we cannot accept responsibility for any trading losses you may incur as a result of this analysis. Comments within the text should not be construed as specific recommendations to buy or sell securities. Individuals should consult with their broker and personal financial advisors before engaging in any trading activities. Do your own due diligence regarding personal investment decisions. In the interest of full disclosure, GOLDRUNNER is personally invested in the Precious Metals sector including various Precious Metals and other individual stocks. GOLDRUNNER reserves the right to modify or eliminate any or all positions at any point in time.



To: DrBill who wrote (4360)9/17/2011 2:38:48 PM
From: DrBill  Respond to of 4690
 
Silver prices may rise to $150 in 18 months By George Maniere

Silver prices are once again enjoying a run-up as they did from January through April. During that period they doubled and briefly touched $50 an ounce before settling back down to the low $30s.

As I write, silver prices are back above $40 an ounce and that may be giving you the urge to sell. I would advise that you don’t. This recovery is for real, and it has much further to go.

While I have a price target of $50.00 by years end, I anticipate silver prices will peak at $150 an ounce in 18 months.

Central banks around the world are pushing lax monetary policies and this leads me to conclude that prices for all commodities (gold and silver in particular) will rise.

We've already seen this happen with gold hitting a record high $1,923.70 an ounce on Sept. 7 and when gold goes higher; its baby brother silver quickly follows.

That's reflected in something called the gold to silver ratio, which shows how many ounces of silver it takes to buy one ounce of gold. Traditionally, this ratio acts as a price barometer for the two precious metals. And if you look at it right now, it's easy to see that $150 silver isn't far off. Gold and silver prices traditionally move together because both are considered stores of value in inflationary times and while the world considers gold as the premier store of value, other societies, most notably the Spanish empire in the Americas, Imperial China and Mogul India, used the silver standard and are therefore more focused on silver when inflation threatens.

In the 19th century silver and gold prices maintained a fairly steady relationship to each other in a ratio of 16 to 1. This was due to the fact that both gold and silver were viewed as currency. However, in the 20th century silver depreciated against gold. This was due to the fact that silver began to be seen as a commodity that was mainly used in industrial applications. While the two metals are chemically very similar, but silver is much cheaper and therefore is more suitable for industrial uses.

By 2010, gold traded well above $1,000 an ounce while silver traded at $12-$14 an ounce or a ratio of close to 80 to 1. This was unsustainable, and it resulted in the price of silver rising in 2010-11. At its peak, silver was trading for $50 an ounce and about a 30 to 1 ratio to the price of gold.

Going forward, we cannot expect the gold/silver price ratio to reach 16 to 1, as it almost did in 1980.

I believe the reason for this is the use of silver as an industrial metal has fallen off sharply when the price spiked. That freed up silver supplies while investment demand for gold soared.

The second reason is that the 1980 silver price spike was caused by the Hunt Brothers' attempt to corner the silver market. No such attempt is visible today.

So, I believe the peak ratio of silver to gold is much more likely to reach something closer to 25 to 1.

The peak in gold is yet unknown, but for supply/demand reasons it seems likely to be above $2,500 an ounce - today's equivalent of the 1980 peak, adjusted for inflation - but less than $5,000 an ounce - the 1980 peak adjusted for growth in world gross domestic product (GDP) or money supply.

That would suggest a silver price peak between $100 and $200 per ounce, with $150 an ounce the most likely outcome.

In conclusion, the market will not ultimately turn bearish until global monetary policy tightens. With the November 2012 U.S. Presidential election looming large on the horizon, we probably have at least another year of rising prices. However, we may not have two years to wait for politicians decide to get our fiscal house in order.

My recommendation would be to any silver holdings at least until prices reached $150 an ounce.



To: DrBill who wrote (4360)9/17/2011 2:38:49 PM
From: DrBill  Respond to of 4690
 
Silver prices may rise to $150 in 18 months By George Maniere

Silver prices are once again enjoying a run-up as they did from January through April. During that period they doubled and briefly touched $50 an ounce before settling back down to the low $30s.

As I write, silver prices are back above $40 an ounce and that may be giving you the urge to sell. I would advise that you don’t. This recovery is for real, and it has much further to go.

While I have a price target of $50.00 by years end, I anticipate silver prices will peak at $150 an ounce in 18 months.

Central banks around the world are pushing lax monetary policies and this leads me to conclude that prices for all commodities (gold and silver in particular) will rise.

We've already seen this happen with gold hitting a record high $1,923.70 an ounce on Sept. 7 and when gold goes higher; its baby brother silver quickly follows.

That's reflected in something called the gold to silver ratio, which shows how many ounces of silver it takes to buy one ounce of gold. Traditionally, this ratio acts as a price barometer for the two precious metals. And if you look at it right now, it's easy to see that $150 silver isn't far off. Gold and silver prices traditionally move together because both are considered stores of value in inflationary times and while the world considers gold as the premier store of value, other societies, most notably the Spanish empire in the Americas, Imperial China and Mogul India, used the silver standard and are therefore more focused on silver when inflation threatens.

In the 19th century silver and gold prices maintained a fairly steady relationship to each other in a ratio of 16 to 1. This was due to the fact that both gold and silver were viewed as currency. However, in the 20th century silver depreciated against gold. This was due to the fact that silver began to be seen as a commodity that was mainly used in industrial applications. While the two metals are chemically very similar, but silver is much cheaper and therefore is more suitable for industrial uses.

By 2010, gold traded well above $1,000 an ounce while silver traded at $12-$14 an ounce or a ratio of close to 80 to 1. This was unsustainable, and it resulted in the price of silver rising in 2010-11. At its peak, silver was trading for $50 an ounce and about a 30 to 1 ratio to the price of gold.

Going forward, we cannot expect the gold/silver price ratio to reach 16 to 1, as it almost did in 1980.

I believe the reason for this is the use of silver as an industrial metal has fallen off sharply when the price spiked. That freed up silver supplies while investment demand for gold soared.

The second reason is that the 1980 silver price spike was caused by the Hunt Brothers' attempt to corner the silver market. No such attempt is visible today.

So, I believe the peak ratio of silver to gold is much more likely to reach something closer to 25 to 1.

The peak in gold is yet unknown, but for supply/demand reasons it seems likely to be above $2,500 an ounce - today's equivalent of the 1980 peak, adjusted for inflation - but less than $5,000 an ounce - the 1980 peak adjusted for growth in world gross domestic product (GDP) or money supply.

That would suggest a silver price peak between $100 and $200 per ounce, with $150 an ounce the most likely outcome.

In conclusion, the market will not ultimately turn bearish until global monetary policy tightens. With the November 2012 U.S. Presidential election looming large on the horizon, we probably have at least another year of rising prices. However, we may not have two years to wait for politicians decide to get our fiscal house in order.

My recommendation would be to any silver holdings at least until prices reached $150 an ounce.