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To: Praveen Johal who wrote (2340)	11/19/1997 1:42:00 AM
From: StockMan	Respond to of 6843

Pravenn, Re -- I'm going to follow Brian's advice and not respond any more to Stockman.. Do that. But before you go away. I beseach you in the name of all that is profitable to join the church of Intel. I can see that you have lost money and are thus fustrated, buying on at 30, and high 20's. Even Brian was smart enough to sell in the high 30's. So I would hate to see on your tombstone -- Praveen, lost his shirt for AMD, who he wrongly believed was Intel's competition, If only he had closely followed Stockman's posts, he would have done better. Stockman

To: Praveen Johal who wrote (2340)	11/19/1997 2:13:00 AM
From: Praveen Johal	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6843

zdnet.com AMD's K6 Performs like A Pentium II You're shopping for a new PC and want just the right blend of performance and price, but you're hesitant to look at anything except an Intel processor. Well, then, you're missing out on a really good price/performance deal: the $2,399 CyberMax BusinessMax A20 266. This system is built around a 266-MHz AMD K6 and provides solid performance at a good price. We tested an early production model. Cybermax's Businessmax A20 266 Features an AMD 266-MHZ K6 Cpu, Which Delivers Performance Similar to the 266-MHZ Pentium II Systems We've Tested, But for Much Less Money. From the bottom up, CyberMax loaded the BusinessMax A20 266 with all the components a business user could want. Its Gigabyte GA-586TX motherboard with Intel 430TX chip set supports any Socket 7 CPU including the K6. It has two USB ports, and three PCI, two ISA, and one shared expansion slot. The motherboard accepts both DIMM and SIMM memory modules, and you can even combine the two. The system came loaded with 64MB of RAM (which we reduced to 32MB for testing purposes) and 512K of pipeline burst cache on the motherboard. A Matrox Millennium II PCI card with 4MB of WRAM handles graphics duties. At this time, the chip sets for Socket 7 CPUs don't support AGP. The BusinessMax also includes a 6.5GB IBM DHEA-36480 hard disk; a 12X/24X Toshiba CD-ROM drive; a ViVa CommCenter-56slm modem and an Ensoniq Audio PCI sound card. It bundles a good number of software titles, but these will appeal more to home and home-office users than to business professionals. Under Windows 95, the BusinessMax's performance was similar to that of the 266-MHz Pentium II AGP systems we reviewed in October (see "AGP Offers Promise, Not Gains," My Computer). With a Business Winstone 97 score of 52.7, it was just 6% slower than the NEC Direction, which got a score of 55.8. On Business Disk WinMark 97, the CyberMax's scored 1,260 thousand bytes per second making it 6% faster than its closest competitor, the Dell Dimension XPS D266. The BusinessMax is a solid PC with a long list of high-performance components (but no AGP), and it costs about $500 less than the Dell Dimension XPS D266, which we dubbed an "AGP Bargain" back in October (see "Dell Delivers AGP Bargain," My Computer). These numbers should give the Intel crowd something to think about. --Michael J. Zulich AMD K6 Takes On Intel's PII For power users, Intel's not the only game in town anymore. AMD's 266-MHz K6 chip, the processor behind the CyberMax BusinessMax A20 266, delivers performance comparable with that of an Intel Pentium II but costs significantly less. Business Winstone 97 Business Disk WinMark 97 Results are measured in thousands of bytes per second. Business Graphics WinMark 97 Results are measured in millions of pixels per second. CPUmark32 266-MHz K6 CyberMax BusinessMax A20 266: 52.7 1,260 103 563 266-MHz PII NEC Direction: 55.8 1,155 140.5 694 266-MHz PII Dell Dimension XPS D266: 52.2 1,195 109 678 AÿBÿOÿUÿTÿ.ÿ.ÿ. Cybermax Businessmax A20 266 PROS:ÿÿSolid performance; low price. CONS:ÿÿNo AGP support; nonbusiness software bundle. The BusinessMax performs like an Intel Pentium II but costs a lot less. COMPANY:ÿÿCybermax Computer, Inc., Allentown, PA PRICE:ÿÿ$2,399 AVAILABILITY:ÿÿNow OS SUPPORT:ÿÿWin 95 PHONE:ÿÿ800-345-8926; 610-770-1880 URL:ÿÿwww.cybmax.com Windows Sources FYI: For more on desktop systems, go to www.winsources.com/resources/.