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To: arun gera who wrote (79597)	9/14/2011 10:21:08 AM
From: dvdw©	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 218879

that is not funny arun, in fact its quite despicable, your characterization fits on some people, perhaps you, as a member of society caste based oligarchy, your self interest may well be tied up in outcomes as you describe.

To: arun gera who wrote (79597)	9/14/2011 11:57:59 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 218879

Indeed it has Arun [in part] < Hasn't the market for smuggling immigrants priced this already? I have read of numbers in the range of $40,000 for chinese immigrants. > Because the smuggling operation carries lots of risk before even arriving and being unceremoniously dumped into a perilous position, the price is only a small fraction of the total value transferred if the transfer is fully successful. And the price is low because such people are low value people unable to earn high income in their new domicile. A properly acquired normal citizenship would be worth about 10 times those illegal payments [near enough for government work]. But a tradable citizenship properly acquired would be worth about 100 times as much because it would be an asset increasing in value and which could be sold to return the full amount to the seller. $40,000 x 10 = $400,000 That's for a low level citizenship. Normal people are worth about $2 million in the USA when valued for road safety purposes. That $2 million average matches with GDP per capita of about $40,000 which, with interest rates where they are implies something like 30 times that = $1.2 million. So the numbers are in the right ball park. That's all for regular citizen-serf citizenship where the citizenship doesn't represent a tradable share in the value of the acquired country. For a tradable citizenship, the Chinese person could stay a decade or two then decide to sell and move to India to enjoy low-priced services, a better climate than reglaciated Ottawa or freedom-denying Beijing. They would enjoy fantastic mangoes and the world's best cashew nuts, not to mention tree ripened bananas and pretty good Cyberspace services in Bangalore. The profits on the tradable citizenship and savings from the high-paid work in Ottawa/USA would set them up for a life of freedom and creativity to achieve even more. An Indian citizenship would no doubt be very cheap initially. The price to be smuggled into India for a Chinese is not very high [as far as I know]. It might require the smugglers to pay the Chinese to be sent there. A tradable USA citizenship would be worth not just the current $2 million value, but the potential profits too. If the value of a country is rising at 10% per year, then the $2 million would suddenly be worth about 10 times that = $20 million at a P:E of 10. There is no reason that whole countries couldn't have P:E ratios comparable with companies if they are run right. Wealth is not a zero sum game. Politicians borrowing $trillions to pour down the drain or hand out to their buddies would NOT be getting voted in by people holding Tradable Citizenships. The citizenry would demand INCREASING value, not reducing. Mqurice