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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (112953)	9/15/2011 10:19:02 AM
From: joseffy	3 Recommendations Respond to of 224705

"Republican Bob Turner pulled off one of the biggest upsets in U.S. political history there last night. He became the first Republican elected from this heavily Jewish Democratic Queens, NY district since 1923."

To: lorne who wrote (112953)	9/15/2011 10:20:02 AM
From: joseffy	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224705

"In a district that is 40% Jewish and filled with Orthodox Jews, a 70-year old Catholic Republican upset a Orthodox Jewish Democrat from a prominent Queens political family. "

To: lorne who wrote (112953)	9/15/2011 10:26:04 AM
From: joseffy	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224705

One point he doesn't touch on is that Hillary is as anti-Jewish and anti-Israel as it gets. Her track record as Obama's Sec. of State reeks with anti-Israel actions. If Obama is perceived as anti-Israel, then what about his Sec, of State Hillary who repeatedly enacted the anti-Israel actions and public rebukes of Israel that led to the current rebuke of Obama in NY?

To: lorne who wrote (112953)	9/15/2011 10:27:44 AM
From: TideGlider	3 Recommendations Respond to of 224705

That argument is sound, but it is actually much worse for Hillary now. Fast and Furious is beginning to open and I personally believe Hillary also had her hands in that. I remember her clearly making a speech from Mexico about US weapons flowing into Mexico. At the time the remark seemed to be the administration attempting to control US weapons in the states and using Mexican violence to demonstrate the need. Flash forward: US agents killed by weapons that Fast and Furious allowed to pass into Mexico. Gun violence in Mexico multiplies geometrically. Is there anyone who would believe the Secretary of State would not have be alerted to a plan to allow weapons to be taken and sold to cartel members , gangs etc in a foreign country? The answer to that is "no way"! and that is supported by her "US gun" speeches from Mexico. I don't believe in coincidence. Hillary will be exposed as will Holder and Obama. Some close aids my fall on the sword for Obama and Hillary, but it won't wash. In the legal world lets say you are applying for a search warrant and you of course need evidence to justify the warrant. One element is predictable information or statements. Hillary's 2009 speech would have justified the US clamping down on US gun trade, purchasing, ownership and new qualifications. However, that was before the incredible gun violence in Mexico escalated, American Agents were slain and the exposure of our government not only allowing but encouraging the sales and release of thousands of weapons heading to the gangs and cartels. I believe Hillary would attempt to run for president if she believed she could destroy evidence of her knowledge of the Fast and Furious debacle. However, there is no way such an plan would not have involved the US State Department at the highest levels. What we have here is rube administration officials believing they could pull off a scheme the CIA would never even touch. That is my story and I am sticking to it. ;^) The fish rots from the head down and the entire administration and all their appointees have to be tried for crimes committed and others simply sent to the unemployment lines. Keep your eyes on the ball. What we need now is Special Prosecutor to circumvent Holder and the threat of prison over the head of actors who would only be offered a new job or resignation by the administration. That does not encourage the telling of the entire story. I believe the investigation is on the right track, but it will take a Special Prosecutor to get to the bottom of this...or "the top" as is much more likely.

To: lorne who wrote (112953)	9/15/2011 10:42:22 AM
From: MJ	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224705

The alternative is that Hillary will compromise and let Obama run for POTUS and she for VP. Obama gave her the proverbial finger in not selecting her for VP. The problem with what I have just written is that HIllary would be tied to all of the decisions that Obama has made and would have to support a lame duck titular President. Hillary would also have to deal with the citizenship issue with Obama----------wasn't it from Hillary's camp that the Obama not being a citizen of the USA arose? That is when the grotesque photoshopped pictures of Hillary hit the net in the Democrat Primary. That was one of the nastiest Primaries in recent memory.