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To: arun gera who wrote (79715)9/16/2011 1:28:50 PM
From: Maurice Winn1 Recommendation  Respond to of 218870
 
No there are not plenty of fish. And the fish we were served by Indians, which they also ate, was not vegetarian. <Indians are pretty much vegetarian. There is plenty of fish around the Indian coast. While 100 million japanese have overfished the world's oceans. > I watched people fishing around Kerala with dirty great big nets they'd lower into the water, coming up empty each time. They were fairly fine mesh too. They were NOT just after big game. 1.bp.blogspot.com They obviously get enough to keep going, but it was not like me fishing 50 years ago in our local harbour, with loads of fish available every time.

Yes, the oceanic commons tends to emptied - the tragedy of the commons problem. With bigger borders that problem has been reduced because countries can manage fishery stocks.

That has been my argument for decades - happiness doesn't require being in a dirty great Yank Tank, roaring along a freeway burning gallons of gasoline. <1 billion indians use only 20 percent of petroleum compared to 300 million americans. And 5 years ago it was only 10 percent.

There are about 1 billion cell phones in india, and the cost of service is about $10 per month with unlimited incoming calls.
> Peace, light, harmony, happiness, health, prosperity, longevity, fun and love come from CDMA/OFDM powered mobile Cyberspace, suffusing the aether and fevered minds with phragmented photons.

That's why the worries about Peak Oil and The Greenhouse Effect are misplaced. Sheik Yamani was right that the stone age didn'et end for a lack of stones and the oil age won't end for a lack of oil.

Yes, Cyberspace services are generally hugely over-priced. That's why zenbu.net.nz does so well. It costs nothing per month to use. People pay for megabytes which many proprietors give away and others are cheap. Even $10 per month is not cheap compared with how cheap it could be. How many megabytes are included in that $10?

You didn't mention roads. Are they uncrowded with people free to zip along at 140 kph? Are other public resources in plentiful supply? Heaps of electricity? Public toilets unclogged and clean?

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