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To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 11:24:23 AM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578131
 
Everyone is a welfare recipient ... just for driving on public roads, so you don't deserve your money, you greedy bastards. Be grateful if we let you keep any of it.



To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 11:27:16 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 1578131
 
what bull, if there wasn't cops companies use to hire the Pinkertons.

50 % of people don't pay any tax, that factory owner pays a ton. Police and fire dept are paid with property tax, the poor don't own much property. The factory owner pays high property taxes on his factory (commercial rates you know) he also pays personal property tax on his home, and the larger the home the more tax.

she is certifiable, but typical for a brain dead liberal



To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 11:41:35 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1578131
 
House GOP flubs vote, inches closer to shutdown

House Republican leaders had a plan and were fairly confident it would work. Last week, the Senate easily passed emergency disaster funding and urged the House to follow suit. This week, House GOP leaders decided to respond by thumbing their noses at the Senate, including disaster aid in a larger spending bill, offsetting the costs by slashing a clean-energy program, and would tell the Senate to pass the bill or they’d shutdown the government.

All they had to do was pass the larger measure, called a “continuing resolution” (CR), which would keep the government running, and would set the stage for another showdown. Boehner, Cantor, and company thought they had the votes. They didn’t.

The surprise defeat in the House Wednesday of a special funding measure to keep the federal government functioning past Sept. 30 was a sharp rebuke of the GOP leadership that controls the chamber and a testament to the fragility of the majority itself. The rejection of the measure resurrected the specter of a government shutdown at the end of the month and suggested that the heated confrontations that dominated Washington in the spring and early summer are likely to return this fall.

While it is widely expected that the parties will eventually reach a compromise to avoid a shutdown, Wednesday’s 230-to-195 vote showed what can happen when the GOP majority operates with no more than minimal Democratic support.

It wasn’t especially close, with Republicans coming 23 votes short of passage. In all, nearly every Democrat balked at the bill, under pressure from party leaders, and 48 House Republicans also rejected the measure. For Dems, it was important to reject the CR that played games with emergency disaster relief, and for the 48 GOP lawmakers who voted no, they wanted their caucus to renege on last month’s agreement and push for more spending cuts.

There are plenty of angles to keep in mind — most notably the fact that Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) just doesn’t have much control over his radicalized caucus — but perhaps the most pressing issue is the calendar. If Congress doesn’t approve a CR over the next eight days, the government will shut down.

At this point, House Republican leaders have a decision to make. They can:

1. Give up on holding disaster aid hostage, put the Senate’s FEMA bill in the CR, and pass it. The bill would then sail through the Senate and avoid a shutdown, but it would further weaken Boehner’s leadership.

2. Abandon the deal Boehner struck with Democrats last month, cut more spending, and pick up votes from the far-right flank. The Senate would reject this immediately, making a shutdown almost unavoidable. The Speaker’s word would become useless, but the right would be happy.

3. Find some different offsets to pay for disaster relief, which some Dems may find acceptable.

4. Remove disaster aid from the CR altogether, and take the issue up as a separate legislative debate.

A decision will have to be made fairly quickly — the deadline is a week from tomorrow, and Congress is supposed to be out next week.



To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 12:26:48 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578131
 
Al, > But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.

You also paid into a Ponzi scheme and helped pay for the health care of those who aren't really helping your factory out, but decided that part of your revenues belong to them.

Your taxes are paying for two, maybe three wars on foreign soil that over half of this country doesn't want. Not to mention aid to nations that probably could do without it.

You're also helping to fund a big liberal experiment in Keynesian "stimulus" that has never worked in the past, but won't stop its believers in trying over and over again.

Thanks to you, we can afford liberalism. I humbly ask that you don't move offshore and take your jobs with you. Even though you have every reason to.

Sincerely,
Liberal-satsu



To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 12:45:55 PM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Respond to of 1578131
 
How did the gov get the money to pay for those roads, police, fireman ? from previous evil factory owners



To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 1:25:29 PM
From: tejek2 Recommendations  Respond to of 1578131
 
Oops!

Boehner chastises conservatives: You voted to spend more money

By Russell Berman

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) delivered a tough message to conservatives who rejected his government funding bill on Wednesday: You voted to spend more money.

Four dozen House Republicans broke ranks and opposed a stopgap spending measure, causing the bill to fail after Democrats pulled their support. GOP leaders are now scrambling to rewrite the measure, and Boehner hinted on Thursday that Republicans would not end up with more spending cuts as a result.

“They could vote no, but what they’re in essence doing is they are voting to spend more money, because that’s exactly what will happen,” Boehner told reporters when asked for his message to conservatives who deserted him.

The vote gave leverage to Democrats who want more federal disaster funding and oppose cuts to an energy program in the bill.

read more.............

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/183257-boehner-chastises-conservatives-you-voted-to-spend-more-money



To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 1:30:46 PM
From: Bill5 Recommendations  Respond to of 1578131
 
"You built a factory out there? Good for you."

What a snotty ingrate.



To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 1:39:54 PM
From: Brumar893 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578131
 
Yes, Elizabeth Warren delivered a pantload:


Listen to this Pantload From Elizabeth Warren
Home - by BigFurHat - September 22, 2011 - 11:30 America/New_York - 24 Comments

Warren is stumping because she is challenging Scott Brown. She is on a “Talking Tour.” (More like a shrill idiocy tour.)

She tries desperately to make the point that an individual’s money is everyone’s money because everyone else paid for the ability for the individual to make that money.

That is complete horseshit. First of all she is assuming that everyone does pay taxes. They don’t. Particularly the people who she is trying to buy votes from.

She also is forgetting that the roads and bridges are paid for by the people who made the factories because they provide the jobs that provide the income that provide the tax revenue.She also forgets that without these entrepreneurs there would be NO REASON TO HAVE ROADS AND BRIDGES!!!! Take a look at America pre-industrial revolution, you big dope.

Also, the factory owners pay taxes like every other citizen and they are entitled to use the infrastructure just like anyone else. She acts as if they are exploiting the roads to transport goods. No one is preventing anyone else from doing the same, and nowhere was it in this “societal pact” that if you use the infrastructure to better advantage than somebody else, that other people are entitled to a boatload of your cash.

The galling part of this idiocy is that she keeps saying this isn’t class warfare. That is EXACTLY what it is.

It’s embarrassing to see people clapping at this tripe. You wonder where the Bill Maher audience comes from? Here they are.

iowntheworld.com



To: Alighieri who wrote (629057)9/22/2011 2:07:23 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578131
 
>Elizabeth Warren - 9/22/2011

You won't hear me say this about many politicians, but I'm such a fan of hers.

-Z