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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (417884)	9/22/2011 9:09:15 PM
From: Jeff Jordan	Respond to of 436258

LOL...the list is legion I was surprised to find the rift or progress or harm aleister crowley (Edward Alexander Crowley)made in the occult world. If Solomon actually existed he gained his power or wisdom through the use of "good and evil" spirits.....you can't control these things with any esoteric art or magic. All persons in this world who use "white or black magic are conjuring demon spirits or other dimensional beings. Many religious leaders use these methods and become "possessed".. the promise of knowledge and power is alluring to many. All 'initiations" IMO are bad for the purpose of enlightenment...as they don't tell you upfront where this light and knowledge come from...cut out the middleman<g> If people have secrets it's because they can't stand in the light of day....we have inherited the same false beliefs and power struggles that have plagued mankind from the beginning, the perpetuation of lies and misrepresentation of truth is big business<g> I don't really believe it's about saving souls....one may be better off disbelieving all he see's in this world. Discovering truth is a personal quest IMO, finding what is real is important in ones life for happiness. If you have to be told...it's not discovery? Like many of the great philosophers have said....How do you know what you do not know? Ezekiel 3:17-21 New International Version (NIV) 17 “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. 18 When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked person and they do not turn from their wickedness or from their evil ways, they will die for their sin; but you will have saved yourself. 20 “Again, when a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before them, they will die. Since you did not warn them, they will die for their sin. The righteous things that person did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous person not to sin and they do not sin, they will surely live because they took warning, and you will have saved yourself.”