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To: Ilaine who wrote (80253)9/24/2011 3:24:17 PM
From: elmatador2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217820
 
Turn Detroit on a Special Industrial Area. Free of cushyness for jobs. Only American citizens would be allowed to work in the Special Industrial Area. Investment would pour in as Wal-Mart would start buying American. Governmet would provide free land and tax holidays.



To: Ilaine who wrote (80253)9/24/2011 5:23:55 PM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations  Respond to of 217820
 
It's interesting how what seems so huge and timeless when young becomes just the passing parade when not many decades older. For years I have read of the decline of Detroit and your post prompted me to ask Google which showed me: detroityes.com Which I have now spent some time clicking through seeing the decline.

When living in Ottawa nearly 40 years ago working as part of the booming post-industrial revolution but still within it, Detroit was "just down the road" but I have never been there. Now, it has obviously pretty much gone.

When I was about 5 years old, there was huge oak tree at my grandmother's house which had been planted when she was a little girl. The tree seemed huge and old, as did my mother, but she was only 38. My grandmother of course was prehistoric. Aunt Ruth lived in the cottage on the farm next door and Claris on the farm on the other side. Small farms. We got milk and eggs from Claris.

40 years ago I painted my grandmothers house. A few years later she had died and the property was sold for motel construction. Mangere airport was turned into Auckland International where A380s now fly in and out of.

Maoris lived on Mangere mountain hundreds of years ago, long since abandoned, as they abandoned all mountain pas in Auckland which was hundreds of years ago a thriving valuable habitat for stone age hunter gather tribal life. But there wasn't any hunting other than of fish and humans since no animals lived in NZ.

Now, the Maori pas have been and gone, Mangere life has been and gone, and is now on the 3rd way of life in less than 200 years. The industrial revolution has been and gone.

Whole societies come and go in a generation or two.

The Winns were in Peckham, London, en masse where now there are immigrant West Indians and all sorts with obviously almost none of my relatives living there. Where there was civil life, there are now riots and an economic life that looks to depend on bludging off tax paying citizens elsewhere in the country.

It seems strange to stand on Mount Saint Johns [a small volcanic cone a few hundred metres from us] where Maoris once lived, and to look out over the vast carpet of suburbia and city sprawled from horizon to horizon and coast to coast and to think that one way or another, for one reason or another, it will all be gone with some archeological remnants. Yet it seems so real and permanent though it has been there for not even 100 years with much of it having been built in the last 50.

Steve Jobs is planning a huge annular/doughnut building as the global HQ for Apple on the old site of Hewlett Packard. dailymail.co.uk

I suppose that's how it was in Detroit back in the day.

That's how I felt driving up Lusk Boulevard north of San Diego in 1994 and seeing The Design Centre which was Qualcomm's new building. Qualcomm now has dozens of buildings across northern San Diego. Cisco had dozens of buildings in north San Jose and Apple had quite a showing in Cupertino.

Even as Steve plans his huge new building, the economic foundations of the USA look comparable with Detroit. Even the constitutional foundations of the USA look shaky as Obamacare, Obamamotors and other tectonic paradigm shift happens. Mexico has been invading the USA with 10s of millions of people.

TJ thinks China will take over as the USA fades. I think not. My bet is on Cyberspace, a new type of country, unbounded by temporal borders. While people have to live somewhere, Cyberspacoids are mobile and have no need to be located near the likes of downtown Detroit's manufacturing centre or Silicon Valley's Geekville.

I know of two small companies which started out with Silicon Valley mentality, hiring locally, but then outsourced their Geek requirements to anybody "out there" who could do what was needed at the right price [which meant cheaply]. sofins.com [in New York] and "This Side Up" zenbu.co.nz in Valley Road, Mount Eden [not Silicon Valley = but in a converted industrial building "The Steelworks"].
Call centres are based anywhere, such as India youtube.com
The Cyberspace era is upon us. We are 20 years into it.

Major paradigm shift happens. Not just in human scale either, but reglaciation scale = Detroit will NOT be looking good with an ice sheet over it. Maybe they got in, and got out, just in time. en.wikipedia.org 2020 reglaciation.

Mqurice



To: Ilaine who wrote (80253)9/26/2011 3:42:24 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217820
 
We would all be better off. And I say this as a Republican.

I think there is a middle ground. But if we had to choose between two extremes, that's the one I would choose.


As a liberal, its clear Rs don't understand how cities work. Detroit may be down but it ain't out. In fact, in the next year, four companies are moving nearly 10,000 jobs from the suburbs to downtown Detroit. Ever hear of Corktown? Then do a search......its a Detroit neighborhood experiencing a major renaissance. Last month housing sales AND prices were up YOY in all 4 counties of Metro Detroit. Detroit is getting ready to break ground on its first light rail line next year. The 'W' hotel chain is rumored to be looking at a major office building in DT Detroit that is being converted from offices to hotel and residential uses. Even as Detroit lost population in the last ten years, DT's residential population increased double digits. Detroit is a Phoenix getting ready to rise again........and unlike the city in AZ it has tons of water to fuel that rise.

Oh btw..........did I mention that Whole Foods is opening up a market in Midtown Detroit next year?

The announcement of Detroit's death is a bit a premature.



To: Ilaine who wrote (80253)9/27/2011 12:46:09 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 217820
 
“In the west, we’re forgetting what really worked 20 years ago. In China and other markets around the world, you see the kind of attention to detail about how business works and how business creates employment.”

Brazil as an example of an emerging economy that is making itself attractive to investment in ways that the US once did.

“They’re learning very fast, these countries,” he said.

Muhtar Kent, Coke’s chief executive, said “in many respects” it was easier doing business in China, comparing the country with a well-managed company. “You have a one-stop shop in terms of the Chinese foreign investment agency and local governments are fighting for investment with each other,” he told the Financial Times.

Mr Kent said that US lawmakers, who have become stuck in political gridlock, need to be held more accountable as they debate ways to fix the economy.

“When a country is in trouble, you can’t have a polarised political process,” he said. “There’s too much comfort. We need more needles to stick in politicians.”

Coke chief criticises US tax rules
By Alan Rappeport in New York

Coca-Cola now sees the US becoming a less friendly business environment than China, its chief executive has revealed, citing political gridlock and an antiquated tax structure as reasons its home market has become less competitive.

Muhtar Kent, Coke’s chief executive, said “in many respects” it was easier doing business in China, comparing the country with a well-managed company. “You have a one-stop shop in terms of the Chinese foreign investment agency and local governments are fighting for investment with each other,” he told the Financial Times.

Mr Kent also pointed to Brazil as an example of an emerging economy that is making itself attractive to investment in ways that the US once did.
“They’re learning very fast, these countries,” he said. “In the west, we’re forgetting what really worked 20 years ago. In China and other markets around the world, you see the kind of attention to detail about how business works and how business creates employment.”

Mr Kent argued that US states did not compete enough with each other to attract businesses while Chinese provinces were clamouring to draw investment from international companies. Meanwhile, he said, China’s budget discipline and rapid economic growth made it an appealing place to set up operations.

China now accounts for 7 per cent of Coke’s global sales volume and in the first half of this year it sold more than 1bn cases of its products in China, doubling the rate of its sales there five years ago. Although Coke does not report its profits by country, China represents about 6 per cent of Coke’s annual operating profits, according to analysts at Bernstein Research. The US, meanwhile, accounts for 41 per cent of Coke’s annual revenue and 19 per cent of its operating income.

Mr Kent’s remarks came a month after Coke said it was ramping up its investment in China with a $4bn investment over the next three years, and on Monday it said it would invest $3bn in Russia during the next five years. The company continues to spend domestically, with a $1.3bn investment in capital assets in North America this year.

China has not always been friendly to Coke and has recently come under fire from the US for being overly restrictive to foreign companies. Two years ago, China’s ministry of commerce rejected the company’s proposed $2.4bn acquisition of Huiyuan, the country’s leading juice maker, on grounds that the deal would hurt small domestic companies and leave consumers with limited options.

Last week, Gary Locke, the new US ambassador to China, criticised the country for undervaluing its currency and for not sufficiently cracking down on intellectual property theft, arguing that the business climate was causing “growing frustration”.

However, Mr Kent said that US tax burdens and political polarisation were creating uncertainty for businesses and hurting investment.

“I believe the US owes itself to create a 21st century tax policy for individuals as well as businesses,” he said.

Mr Kent, speaking on the sidelines of the Clinton Global Initiative conference, hit out specifically at US provisions that tax companies for repatriating cash earned overseas. Coke does not disclose how much cash it holds overseas.

“If you talk about an American company doing business in the world today with its Chinese, Russian, European or Japanese counterparts, of course we’re disadvantaged,” Mr Kent said. “A Chinese or Swiss company can do whatever its wants with those funds [earned overseas]. When we want to bring them back, we are faced with a very large tax burden.”

Mr Kent said that US lawmakers, who have become stuck in political gridlock, need to be held more accountable as they debate ways to fix the economy.

“When a country is in trouble, you can’t have a polarised political process,” he said. “There’s too much comfort. We need more needles to stick in politicians.”

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