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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Paul V. who wrote (114029)	9/28/2011 6:37:32 AM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 224750

paul v aka kennytroll

To: Paul V. who wrote (114029)	9/28/2011 6:38:08 AM
From: Hope Praytochange	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224750

Study: BP oil spill hurt common La. marsh fish Published:27-Sep'11 17:05 ET By:The Associated Press Contrary to public perception that last summer's BP oil spill did little damage to marine life in Louisiana, a new study says a common fish in the marshes was hurt severely by the spill and now is turning up deformed and may be unable to reproduce properly. The study, led by a team of scientists from Louisiana State University, found what scientists call "sub-lethal" effects to killifish, a small but abundant species found in Louisiana's marshes and used as bait by fishermen. Sub-lethal effects are those that pop up as animals grow. Researchers said the fish are showing signs of damage even though the amount of oil in their tissues and in the water where they were sampled was extremely low or not even detectable. The findings were published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal. By looking at killifish sampled near Grand Terre, a barrier island in the heavily oiled Barataria estuary, the scientists said they found physiological and reproductive impairments. The scientists said the gills, intestines and cardiovascular organs of the fish have been damaged. The researchers also said the fish they looked at are now smaller than they should be. "They are essentially listless, the ones from the oiled sites," said Fernando Galvez, a fish biologist at LSU. "These animals are hurting pretty badly." Galvez said fish in the embryonic stage were affected the most and are not growing properly. He said the study published this week focused on what effects were found in the first four months after the spill, but he said the group of researchers has tracked the progress of killifish since the spill and found lingering problems. This study took a different tack than previous studies that sought to find evidence of trouble by measuring oil contamination. Instead, the LSU researchers looked for changes in fish genes caused by contamination. "Just measuring the chemistry in the water and also in the fish is not going to provide much useful information in terms of looking at the true actual effects on the fish," Galvez said. "We have done all this chemical testing of wildlife, seafood and water and the message has gone out that seafood from Louisiana is safe to eat," said Andrew Whitehead, an LSU genome researcher who worked on the study. "The message is that the animals are out of the woods because they are not carrying a chemical burden. But when you ask the fish directly, when you look at their biology, they show that they have been exposed and that may be a problem for populations." Galvez said their findings are similar to what scientists found after the Exxon-Valdez spill, where subtle but serious problems took several years before they were noticed by scientists. "Maybe looking for genetic effects is a better way than looking for oil," said Gilbert T. Rowe, a marine ecologist at Texas A&M University at Galveston. Rowe said examining killifish, "a model for things that live in the ocean," was a good choice because they are so abundant. "It's like studying a mouse" to figure out effects on humans, he said. Bernard Rees, a fish physiologist at the University of New Orleans, said the researchers had found an important link between oil contamination and possible physiological effects. He said the most troubling possibility for the long-term health of killifish was the chance that oil contamination harmed reproduction. He said that killifish are an important food source for other fish, including speckled trout and redfish, favorite species for sport fishermen. But Rees said that it was too early to know the long-term effects. "Nature has the capacity to rebound, so we'll have to wait and see if there are any long lasting population effects." The study, which included scientists from Clemson University and Texas State University, was funded by the National Science Foundation and through a fund set up by BP to pay for independent studies of the spill. odumba pockets BP $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

To: Paul V. who wrote (114029)	9/28/2011 9:04:24 AM
From: locogringo	7 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224750

You still haven't explained those "Tea party death squads". readmsg.aspx?msgid=27640892&srchtxt=squads Several of us have politely asked. Your last attempt at avoiding an answer was pitiful and nothing more than a copy of links to Sarah Palin's death panel accusations. If you were wrong about the Tea Party Death Squads, and want to apologize for being a rude, lying, ignorant MORON, please go right ahead and do so.

To: Paul V. who wrote (114029)	9/28/2011 11:47:30 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie	7 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224750

Funny story.... The elementary school that my son went to just had a big change. We live in what could be called a well off neighborhood. Not really affluent, but certainly not disadvantaged. The school is somewhat well known for the parental involvement in the school from volunteering to donating. I volunteered there for all of the years that my son went there and still volunteer there a few times a year. Because it is a well off neighborhood the school gets less funding than schools located in disadvantaged areas. So the parents raised funds to hire a computer teacher, a science teacher, a PE coach and a librarian. All except the librarian are technically employees of the booster club, not the school district. Well, the school district saw that we had a librarian and that a disadvantaged school did not. And even though the booster club paid our librarian's wages, since she was technically an employee of the school district, they moved her to a title 1 disadvantaged school. Understand that she actually went to this school as a child and her kids went there too. She did this because of her love of the community (that's not speculation, she's a friend and told me). They moved her to a title 1 school that is 20 miles away. And if you know Los Angeles, 20 miles in the morning is not an easy commute. She used to walk to the school from her house a couple blocks away. She just quit. The parents could certainly run the library. But the union that is in place at the school requires that there be at least one paid union library aid to open the library. But the district won't give the school the money to hire one and the union won't let the booster club hire the aid or another librarian. The result, our library is full of books and locked. and the title 1 school is out one librarian This is Obamaland. This is unions screwing our kids remember that the next time you hear teacher's unions using the "it's for the kids" argument. It's time we stopped talking about greedy corporations and started focusing on Greedy Union Workers