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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/29/2011 5:14:52 PM
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Flashback: Biden Praises Solyndra As Symbol of ‘Obamanomics’ Working

Vice President Joe Biden in 2009: "But the one thing I want to say is the Recovery Act is working and you're going to see it work right on that site ... Part of our plan is to make sure that as we create these jobs we create jobs in the future like the ones you're creating, jobs you can raise a family on, green jobs, jobs that will serve as a foundation for a stronger American economy. Which is why it's so important we invest in Solyndra and invest in what Solyndra is doing. Not just to get us through today but to power our way to a much brighter tomorrow."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/29/2011 5:15:29 PM
From: locogringo2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224648
 
Keep trying to make yourself feel better about the TOTAL FAILURE, kenny_troll.

Republicans 58, Democrats 45

Forget the head-to-head match-ups between Ron Paul and Barack Obama. Forget how much voters blame the House Republicans for the economy, the budget and the collapse of the Boston Red Sox. The one poll question that will matter the most in November 2012 (13 months away) is voter enthusiasm: Which party can get its voters to go to the polls and vote. Right now, 58% of Republicans are willing to crawl over broken glass to vote and only 45% of Democrats are pumped up, according to Gallup.

blogs.dailymail.com

Will you be voting for Cain, Newt, Michelle or Rudy?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/29/2011 8:37:41 PM
From: lorne2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224648
 
ken...At last maybe some good news for democratic party....

Fmr. Clinton Adviser: 'Very Possible' Obama Will Bow Out of Presidential Race - For Now
By Grant M. Dahl
September 29, 2011
cnsnews.com

In an interview with conservative radio icon Sean Hannity, former President Clinton adviser and campaign manager Dick Morris stated that, after speaking with a Democratic strategist, he thinks it is “very possible” that President Obama might acquiesce to requests from the Democratic leadership in Congress and bow out of the 2012 race, leaving the door open for him to return sometime in the future.

“I asked a top Democratic strategist the other day and he thought that it was possible that, in January, Harry Reid comes to Obama and says, ‘Look you cost us control of the House last year, you’re going to cost us control of the Senate this year. For the good of the party you have to step aside’” said Morris.

“And, then, (Obama) pulls a Lyndon Johnson, he says ‘I’m fighting to solve the recession, and problem is because of partisanship and my re-election people reject everything I say because of partisanship, so I’m going to not run for president and focus my full time attention on solving this recession’ and then go out popular,” Morris added.


The strategy proposed here is an interesting one. With his approval ratings at an all time low, Obama is looking at a very high likelihood of a defeat in the 2012 elections and forecasters, using the examples of the 2011 special elections in New York City and Nevada, have forecast a very high probability of losses across the nation for the Democratic Party because of Obama.

A withdrawal by President Obama, with a statement that the reason he’s bowing out is to solve the recession, would likely allow the Democratic Party to recover some of its popularity and allow the president to present himself as rising above the partisan fights in Congress with a higher goal in mind. This would help the Democrats to better portray the Republicans, and especially the Tea Party, as the stubborn, non-compromising party uninterested in truly solving the nation’s problems.

Morris added that he thinks that this strategy could also set up Obama for a presidential run in a later election.

“The twenty second amendment does not preclude non-consecutive terms, he is young, (he could) preserve himself as a possible candidate down the road” said Morris. “We’ve seen how Bill Clinton is much more popular now then he was when he was leaving office, same with Jimmy Carter.”

Intriguing as that possibility is, however, non-consecutive presidential terms have only happened once before in American politics, though they have been attempted by a few former presidents. The only president to successfully serve non-consecutive terms was Democrat Grover Cleveland who won election in 1884, lost in 1888, and won in 1892.





To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/29/2011 9:57:06 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 224648
 
watch the video it is classic

mrctv.org




To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/29/2011 10:00:32 PM
From: Hope Praytochange1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224648
 
State Gets $5 Mil Bonus For Food Stamp Sign Up

In its quest to promote taxpayer-funded entitlement programs, the Obama Administration has actually rewarded one state with a $5 million bonus for its efficiency in adding food-stamp recipients to already bulging rolls.

It’s part of the administration’s campaign to eradicate “food insecure households”; by improving access and increasing participation in the government’s Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Incidentally, the program was recently changed to SNAP to eliminate the stigma that comes with a name like food stamps. Just a few months ago the federal agency that administers the program, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), launched a multi-million-dollar initiative to recruit more food-stamp participants even though the number of recipients has skyrocketed in the last few years.

This week Oregon officials bragged that the USDA has given the state $5 million in “performance bonuses”; for ensuring that people eligible for food benefits receive them and for its “swift processing of applications.” The money comes on the heels of a separate $1.5 million award from the feds for making “accurate payments of food stamp benefits to clients.” So welfare recipients are clients? .

It marks the fifth consecutive year that Oregon has been “recognized” by the federal government for “exceptional administration” of the entitlement program, according to the announcement posted on the state’s Department of Human Services web site. The state official who runs SNAP assures that her staff will “continue working very hard to exceed expectations” so that Oregonians can “put healthy foods on their table quickly.”;

Could this be why the number of food-stamp beneficiaries in Oregon has increased dramatically in the last few years? Since 2008 the state has seen a 60% boost in the number of food-stamp recipients, which means that more than 780,000 people (one out of five Oregonians) get groceries compliments of Uncle Sam.

As if this weren’t bad enough, the feds are also giving the state a two-year grant to test an “innovative approach” to the food-stamp “client eligibility review process.” This will make it even easier for people to get food stamps because it grants state officials a waiver that allows them to grant the benefit without interviewing the candidate.

Isn't this amazing I wonder how much checking was done to ensure they were really eligible.




To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/29/2011 10:24:23 PM
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 12:09:36 AM
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 5:59:46 AM
From: longnshort4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224648
 
Dick Durbin: We, er, don’t have the votes in the Senate to pass Obama’s jobs bill

posted at 9:52 pm on September 29, 2011 by Allahpundit

Note well: It’s not because of a GOP filibuster either.

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said that, at the moment, Democrats don’t have the votes to pass President Obama’s jobs bill, but Durbin added that that would change.

“Not at the moment, I don’t think we do but, uh, we can work on it,” Durbin said according to Chicago radio station WLS…

“The oil-producing state senators don’t like eliminating or reducing the subsidy for oil companies, “Durbin said. “There are some senators who are up for election who say I’m never gonna vote for a tax increase while I’m up for election, even on the wealthiest people. So, we’re not gonna have 100% Democratic senators. That’s why it needs to be bi-partisan and I hope we can find some Republicans who will join us to make it happen.”

Is this news? We knew on Sept. 14 that Democrats were leery of the bill when Reid insisted that they had other business to handle before taking it up. Two days later, we found out that Senate Democrats spent an hour and a half griping about the bill to White House aides in a meeting. Five Democrats — Begich, Webb, Landrieu, Mikulski, and Casey — were specifically named as opponents. Three days after that, Durbin told CNN not to expect any action on it until October at the earliest, a prediction that’ll end up being proved right. To the extent that his latest comments are “news,” it’s for two reasons. One: Despite having had two weeks to convince his own party’s congressional caucus to rally behind him on this extremely prominent measure, Obama’s still up shinola creek. That’s what happens when your job approval trend lines look like this. Two: We all realize, I hope, that the bill is chiefly a political ploy designed to show The One being proactive on the seminal electoral issue of the day. He expects Republicans to block it, at which point he’ll turn around and blame our endless economic malaise on the GOP. That’s perfectly straightforward — except that he forgot to craft the bill to make sure that it would attract the support of Democrats at least, which is essential if he wants to frame opposition to it as blind wingnut partisanship. I’m as confused as Dave in Texas is about that. If you want to isolate Republican obstructionism as America’s big problem, you should probably first double-check with your own guys to make sure they’re not being obstructionist too, huh?

hotair.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 7:36:20 AM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 224648
 
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 7:39:50 AM
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U.S. Stock Futures Slide: odumba making USA poorer and fiscal fiasco

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By BARBARA KOLLMEYERMADRID—U.S. stock futures pointed to losses for Wall Street on Friday ahead of a clutch of economic data, as a rough third quarter drew to a close.

About three hours before the start of trade, futures on the Dow Jones Industrial Average were down 104 points to 10994 and those on the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index dropped 12.4 points to 1144. Nasdaq 100 futures fell 18.75 points to 2170.75. Changes in futures don't always accurately reflect early market moves after the opening bell.


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ReutersTraders at the New York Stock Exchange.

Global markets also fell as worries over Europe's sovereign-debt crisis rumbled on. The Stoxx 600 index was off 1.4% on global-growth concerns, hitting car makers like BMWand luxury-goods groups.

The Hang Seng index closed down 2.3%. HSBC's China purchasing managers' index showed the manufacturing sector contracted in September for a third straight month, as domestic and overseas demand remained weak.

Preliminary data showed the Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 10.15% in the third quarter, the biggest quarterly percentage drop since the first quarter of 2009, and the first down-quarter since the second quarter of 2010.

"It certainly was a horrific quarter for stock markets ... the only market that escaped any major declines or held steady was the bond market," said Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Rockwell Global Capital.

Mr. Cardillo said markets will focus on U.S. economic data, but "basically there's no way we can escape closing with major losses and still lots of volatility."

Economic data due Friday include U.S. personal income for August at 8:30 a.m., ET, the Chicago purchasing managers' index for September due at 9:45 a.m. and the University of Michigan consumer-confidence survey for September at 9:55 a.m.

Wall Street finished a choppy session mostly higher on Thursday, with the Dow closing up 143.08 points, or 1.3%, to 11153.98. However, shares of higher-end retail goods companies such as Tiffany & Co. stumbled on fears of a hard landing in China.

On the corporate front, shares of Micron Technology could come under pressure after the firm unexpectedly swung to a fiscal fourth-quarter net loss of $135 million, or 14 cents a share. That news weighed on U.K. chip designer ARM Holdings, which was a top decliner in London.

Shares of Orion Marine Group could be in focus after it said late Thursday that its end market has been experiencing difficulties throughout the year, and it expects margins to stay under pressure for "the foreseeable future."

In deal news, McGraw-Hill Cos. is in advanced talks to combine its S&P Indices business with CME Group's Dow Jones Indexes, according to a report published in The Wall Street Journal's online edition late Thursday. CME owns 90% of the Dow Jones Indexes through a joint venture with Dow Jones & Co. CME would have a minority stake of about 25%, while Dow Jones could have a minimal stake under the deal. Dow Jones is a unit of News Corp. and publishes The Wall Street Journal.

Among commodities, gold futures for December delivery rose $11.70 to $1,629 an ounce, while crude oil for November delivery fell 10 cents to $82.04 a barrel.

The dollar index, which measures the U.S. unit against a basket of six major currencies, rose to 78.238 from 77.917 late Thursday.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 8:31:19 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224648
 
ken..bye bye bama?

Obama hits rock bottom with independents - 9%
Poll reveals incumbent now 'in very deep trouble'
d: September 29, 2011
By Bob Unruh
wnd.com


Just 38 percent of his own party say things are going along fine in the United States, and only 9 percent of independents have that opinion. Even among blacks, 48 percent say the nation is on the wrong track, according to a new poll.

So what does it mean for Barack Obama's campaign for another four-year lease on the Oval Office?

"One thing is clear – Obama is in very deep trouble and has been for quite some time," said Fritz Wenzel, whose Wenzel Strategies completed the new poll on Obama.

The telephone survey was conducted Sept. 23-27 and carries a margin of error of plus-or-minus 2.91 percentage points.

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"Poll numbers for political figures tend to be like cement – the longer they sit at low levels without significant rebounds, the harder it becomes to make them move much at all," Wenzel said. "Voters appear to have drawn conclusions about Obama's performance in office and his capacity to lead.

"It will be very difficult for him to recover under good circumstances, and there is now no hint on the horizon that the economy or America's gaping political divide will heal anytime soon," he said.


"In the end, this all works against the incumbent," Wenzel said.

He noted the poll results show that only 38 percent of Democrats, the president's own party, believe things are going well. Forty-six percent of the Democrats said they believe the country is off the rails.

"Among the very liberal, or progressives, just 41 percent said things are on the right track," Wenzel said. "But the most daunting details in this latest survey may be what independents think: just 9 percent said they think things are headed down the right road, while 77 percent said things are moving in the wrong direction."

The poll indicated that among blacks, only 43 percent believe country is on the right track. Forty-eight percent called the nation's trajectory the wrong road.

Among all age groups, the belief that Obama is leading the nation in the right direction never rose above 22 percent, and among all income ranges, only those making $50,000 to $75,000 a year broke 20 percent approval (23 percent).

Thirteen-point-seven percent overall say Obama is doing an excellent job and another 20 percent considered his work good. But two out of three said his performance has been fair to poor. Almost no one did not have an opinion on that question.

Among those who identified themselves as "moderate," only one in 10 said Obama's work was excellent, to nearly 32 percent who said it was poor.

The poll showed that 46 percent said it was at least "likely" that Obama may be able to pull of a second-term victory, but 50 percent said no.

"Obama's actual chances of winning re-election remain reasonable. Not great, but reasonable," Wenzel said.

Asked whether Obama should seek re-election in the midst of a fading economy and scandals, 44 percent said he should seek a second term, while 48 percent said he should not, according to the poll.

"Interestingly, while 81 percent of Democrats said he should run for a second term, just 76 percent said they would vote for him in a primary election if he were opposed by an unnamed Democrat," the poll report said. "And among independent voters who said they would participate in the Democratic Party's caucus or primary in the state, just 56 percent said they would support Obama, while 32 percent would vote for an unnamed Democrat."

"It is hard to overestimate the political trouble into which the White House has fallen as we head into the third winter of the Obama administration. Just 17 percent of Americans nationwide think the country is headed in the right direction," Wenzel said.

"Even among progressives, Obama only wins 74 percent support, perhaps an expression of anger at Obama for what the left has seen as his failures to accomplish their agenda," he said




To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 8:32:07 AM
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 9:10:45 AM
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 9:24:02 AM
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)9/30/2011 10:27:29 AM
From: locogringo4 Recommendations  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 224648
 
How does this sit with you this fine morning, kenny_troll?

Looks Like Obama May Have Finally Assassinated An American Citizen

Did an American president just assassinate a US Citizen without any due process, without any court case or verdict of guilty?

I will never shed a tear for al-Awlaki, but I will note that this may be (and hopefully is) the first time a US President has suspended the constitution and assassinated a US Citizen who was still presumed innocent. And that disturbs me. Even under Bush’s surveillance changes, he himself could never order the suspension of rights. And all the way through the burden of proof was on the administration, and the end result of surveillance was court, not a pine box.

strata-sphere.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)10/1/2011 8:01:20 AM
From: lorne2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224648
 
ken...Got your remote control device in good working order? :-)
I'm sure the dem prez in power now would never permit this to happen...dead dem votes ok but not this?

Researchers Hack Voting Machine for $26
By Matt Liebowitz

Published September 30, 2011
| TechMediaNetwork
foxnews.com

Campaigning for the 2012 presidential race has already begun, but what the candidates don't know is that come election day, hackers could be the ones whose votes have the biggest impact.

Researchers from the Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois have developed a hack that, for about $26 and an 8th-grade science education, can remotely manipulate the electronic voting machines used by millions of voters all across the U.S.

The researchers, Salon reported, performed their proof-of-concept hack on a Diebold Accuvote TS electronic voting machine, a type of touchscreen Direct Recording Electronic (DRE) voting system that is widely used for government elections.

(Diebold's voting-machine business is now owned by the Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems, whose e-voting machines are used in about 22 states.)

In a video, Roger Johnston and Jon Warner from Argonne National Laboratory's Vulnerability Assessment Team demonstrate three different ways an attacker could tamper with, and remotely take full control, of the e-voting machine simply by attaching what they call a piece of "alien electronics" into the machine's circuit board.

The electronic hacking tool consists of a $1.29 microprocessor and a circuit board that costs about $8. Together with the $15 remote control, which enabled the researchers to modify votes from up to a half-mile away, the whole hack runs about $26.

Two of the takeovers show the researchers controlling the buttons on the keypad despite what the "real" voter enters. But in what Warner called "probably the most relevant attack for vote tampering," the researchers were able to blank the e-voting machine's screen for a split-second after the "vote now" button was pressed. While the screen went dark, they remotely entered their own numbers into the DRE's keypad.

Johnston explained in the video: "When the voter hits the 'vote now' button to register his votes, we can blank the screen and then go back and vote differently and the voter will be unaware that this has happened."

Johnston and Warner say that the ease with which this type of remote hack could be deployed highlights the need for e-voting machines to be designed better, with not just cybersecurity, but physical security in mind.

"Spend an extra four bucks and get a better lock," Johnston said. "You don't have to have state-of-the-art security, but you can do some things were it takes at least a little bit of skill to get in."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)10/1/2011 10:17:16 AM
From: Hope Praytochange1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224648
 
Poll Results: Three Food Banks to Receive Tyson Foods Donation Company Providing the Equivalent of 360,000 Meals to Top Vote-Getters 10/01 10:11 AM


9.2% unemployment - national fiscal disaster - usa citizens now rely on food bank: hope and change of the demorats and odumba
SPRINGDALE, Ark., Oct. 1, 2011 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- The results are in from an online hunger-awareness poll and three food banks will be receiving a large donation from Tyson Foods ( TSN:$17.3600,$0.2500,1.46%) .

The Food Bank of the Albemarle in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, finished in first place; the Yuma Community Food Bank in Yuma, Arizona, was second; and the Mississippi Food Network in Jackson, Mississippi, was third. Each will each receive 30,000-pounds of protein as one of the top three vote-getters in a Tyson Foods Facebook poll.

Voters were given the choice of 10 food banks located in counties with high food insecurity in the U.S. Nearly 38,000 votes were cast during the past two weeks.

The three food banks that received the most votes will each get a truckload of protein from Tyson within the next month. Combined, the donations will provide the equivalent of 360,000 meals.

Community involvement in the online voting was so robust Tyson officials also announced today that the seven other food banks in the poll will also receive a donation from the company.

"We're thrilled with the public involvement in the vote and believe it has helped generate more awareness about hunger," said Ed Nicholson, director of Community Relations for Tyson Foods ( TSN:$17.3600,$0.2500,1.46%) . "Because of the outstanding public response, we're also going to donate a truckload of protein to each of the other seven food banks sometime during the next year."

The seven food banks include the Central Virginia Food Bank in Richmond, Virginia; Feeding the Valley Food Bank in Columbus, Georgia; Food Bank of Northeast Louisiana in Monroe, Louisiana; Lowcountry Food Bank in Charleston, South Carolina; Mid-South Food Bank in Memphis, Tennessee; Montgomery Area Food Bank, Inc. in Montgomery, Alabama; and Second Harvest of South Georgia, Inc. in Valdosta, Georgia.

The social media initiative was part of Tyson's involvement in Hunger Awareness Month and the company's sponsorship of Feeding America's effort to encourage more people to become Advocacy Champions for hunger relief. People who want to join the fight are asked to register with Feeding America's Hunger Action Center at hungeractioncenter.org.

Tyson employees are also getting involved in the hunger awareness effort. In addition to asking its U.S. team members to register as Advocacy Champions, Tyson is coordinating a company-wide competition during the remainder of 2011, encouraging employees to form Hunger Action Teams. The teams will coordinate at least one event in their communities to raise hunger awareness. The best overall team and location will be recognized for their efforts and activities.

Earlier this year, Tyson launched the "KNOW Hunger" campaign to raise hunger awareness. As part of the campaign, the company released the results of a survey which found that one in four Americans is worried about having enough money to put food on the table in the next year. Another key finding is that many Americans are unaware of how serious hunger is in their own communities.

Tyson Foods ( TSN:$17.3600,$0.2500,1.46%) has fought hunger in the U.S. for a decade, donating more than 82 million pounds of protein, or the equivalent of more than 320 million meals. In addition to Feeding America, the company partners with the Food Research and Action Center, Share Our Strength, Lift Up America and the League of United Latin American Citizens to raise awareness and help feed the hungry across the nation.

Meat and poultry are excellent sources of heme iron, which is especially important for women, children and adolescent girls, who are often iron deficient. For more information on the nutritional value of meat and poultry, go to: meatpoultrynutrition.org

For more information on Tyson's hunger relief efforts, go to: www.tysonhungerrelief.com

The Tyson Foods, Inc. ( TSN:$17.3600,$0.2500,1.46%) logo is available at globenewswire.com

Tyson Foods, Inc. ( TSN:$17.3600,$0.2500,1.46%) , founded in 1935 with headquarters in Springdale, Arkansas, is one of the world's largest processors and marketers of chicken, beef and pork, the second-largest food production company in the Fortune 500 and a member of the S&P 500. The company produces a wide variety of protein-based and prepared food products and is the recognized market leader in the retail and foodservice markets it serves. Tyson provides products and services to customers throughout the United States and more than 90 countries. The company has approximately 115,000 Team Members employed at more than 400 facilities and offices in the United States and around the world. Through its Core Values, Code of Conduct and Team Member Bill of Rights, Tyson strives to operate with integrity and trust and is committed to creating value for its shareholders, customers and Team Members. The company also strives to be faith-friendly, provide a safe work environment and serve as stewards of the animals, land and environment entrusted to it.

CONTACT: Gary Mickelson, 479-290-6111 or gary.mickelson@tyson.com Image: Tyson Foods, Inc. ( TSN:$17.3600,$0.2500,1.46%) Logo



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)10/1/2011 10:19:23 AM
From: Hope Praytochange2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224648
 
US Stocks Fall, Closing Out DJIA's Biggest Quarterly Point Drop Since Late '08 09/30 05:10 PM --US stocks drop in session that closes biggest quarterly drop since late 2008

--European markets broadly decline as euro-zone inflation jumps

--DJIA falls 12% for third quarter

(Updates with additional movers and closing stock prices throughout.)

By Brendan Conway

Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--U.S. stocks fell Friday, closing out the market's biggest quarterly drop since the financial crisis with a triple-digit dive in the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

The blue-chip Dow shed 240.60 points, or 2.16%, to 10913.38, after a batch of glum overseas economic data weighed on investor sentiment. Stocks sank into the close, finishing at session lows. The loss capped a 12% third-quarter decline for the Dow, the biggest percentage drop since the first quarter of 2009 and the biggest point swoon since late 2008. The session also capped the measure's fifth straight monthly drop, the longest such streak since the six months ending in February 2009.

The Standard & Poor's 500-stock index shed 28.98 points, or 2.50%, to 1131.42, putting the broad measure's quarterly loss at 14%. The Nasdaq Composite tumbled 65.36 points, or 2.63%, to 2415.40, for a 13% quarterly fall. The two indexes each also posted their worst quarterly drop since late 2008.

The materials sector led all S&P 500 sectors lower as it fell 3.7%. Financial stocks were not far behind. Two of the Dow's three worst-performing stocks in the third quarter led the way lower Friday. Hewlett-Packard ( HPQ:$22.45,00$-1.3300,-5.59%) fell $1.33, or 5.6%, to 22.45, and Alcoa ( AA:$9.5700,$-0.4900,-4.87%) shed 49 cents, or 4.9%, to 9.57.

Utilities and consumer staples, two sectors viewed as defensive, posted the smallest drops. kennytroll mute and deaf ???? no breaking news



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)10/1/2011 11:06:35 AM
From: lorne1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224648
 
New Study Underlines Unfulfilled Promises of Health Care Bill
Sep 29, 2011
abcnews.go.com

A new study by the Kaiser Family Foundation underlines that many of the promises surrounding President Obama’s health care legislation remain unfulfilled, though the White House argues that change is coming.

Workers at the Flora Venture flower shop in Newmarket, NH, remember when presidential candidate named Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., promised that their health care costs would go down if they elected him and his health care plan was enacted.

On May 3, 2008, the president told voters that he had “a health care plan that would save the average family$2,500 on their premiums.”

Last year workers at the flower shop saw their insurance premiums shoot up 41 percent.

“I basically work for the health care payments,” says manager Pat Cowhig, whose husband has medical issues.

The Kaiser Family Foundation shows family premiums topped $15,000 a year for the first time in 2011, increasing a whopping 9% this year, three times more than the increase the year before. The study says that up to 2% of that increase is because of the health care law’s provisions, such as allowing families to add grown children up to 26 years old to their policies.

So what about that $2,500 in savings the president pledged? White House deputy chief of staff Nancy-Ann DeParle insists families will see that savings — by 2019.

“Many of the changes in the Affordable Care Act are starting this year, and in succeeding years,” DeParle told ABC News, “and by 2019 we estimate that the average family will save around $2,000.”

DeParle said that the “big increases that occurred last year were probably driven by insurance plans overestimating what the impact would be and maybe trying to take some profits upfront before some of the changes in the Affordable Care Act occur.

The Kaiser study also indicates employers are switching plans and shifting costs onto employees. Half of workers in smaller firms now face “deductibles of at least $1,000, including 28 percent facing deductibles of $2,000 or more,” according to the study.

Flora Venture’s new policy increased the deductible employees pay to $5,000.

Doesn’t that fly in the face of the president’s promise that “if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan”? ABC News asked DeParle.

She said no — the president wasn’t saying the legislation would guarantee that everyone can keep his or her preferred plan, just that the legislation wouldn’t force anyone to change.

“What the president promised is that under health care reform, that he would make it more possible for people to have choices in these (health insurance) exchanges,” DeParle said. “And that’s going to be what will help businesses bring costs down. Right now, they’re just struggling. That’s one reason why they’re shifting costs to employees.”

DeParle said that “once health care reform fully takes hold in 2014 and beyond, employers will have more tools and more ability to help bring down costs,” she said, including the new health insurance exchanges.

-Jake Tapper




To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)10/1/2011 3:37:43 PM
From: Ann Corrigan3 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224648
 
Not to rub salt in the wound:http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20114184-10391695.html



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114237)10/2/2011 11:05:58 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224648
 
ken...When I read this I right away thought this was written just for you.... course there are others here who fit the mold as well...Enjoy.

Meet HuffPost's annoying, but relentless conservative
'Forgive them God, for they know not what they do'
: October 01, 2011
By Dave Tombers
wnd.com

A conservative commentator has infiltrated a known bastion of liberal bloggers at the Huffington Post and is hiding in plain sight.

"The Relentless Conservative," hereafter known as RC, began a series of columns in June with commentary titled "Why the Left Should Listen to the Right."

Take some time to prepare for what might happen if progressivse get their way, read "After America: Get Ready for Armageddon."

His anonymous article openly declared that he was setting up shop in the enemy camp but that it would be good for Huffington Post readers: They should embrace learning more about their enemies on the right.

He told his readers things such as:

"Well Huffington Post readers, you will now have the opportunity to hear, regularly, conservative opinion that should rankle you deeply and, if I get it right, will make you angry at yourselves and at the liberal elected officials you've installed. My core concern was, is and will remain the good of the country and all its people of whatever persuasion."
And:

"Nothing is as maddening as attempting a political conversation with liberals. Believe me, I've tried. It's almost as if they cannot accept another worldview, that the only opinion about government that exists – or matters – is theirs."

Within hours, Huffington Post readers put their keyboards to work letting the conservative writer know what they thought of him. One commenter had this to say:

"Let the Republicans go peddle their junk in places with like-minded people, like churches." - HUFFPOST SUPER USER Raker.
Another added this:

"Okay, I don't usually suspect this of conservatives but there absolutely HAS TO BE someone on their side with a little more brains than this guy has." – Huffpost Pundit Jmpurser.
RC quickly updated his column to call out some of what he described as "anonymously vicious" and "over-the-top spiteful" reactions.

He added this to the updated piece:

"Once again, liberals are convicted, judge and jury, of hypocrisy.

"I'm not first to claim that liberals apparently have a hearing disorder that kicks in only when they are confronted with conservative thought. It's been a major criticism of the left for decades now.

"There must be something to it, especially when I exhort people – Huffington Post readers, in this case – to listen to each other and perhaps, just maybe, get along together to solve the real problems facing this country."
More Huffington Post readers responded with comments like this:

"Dear Relentless Conservative, I feel like kissing you with my mouth wide open and swirling my tongue deep inside because I just threw up in my mouth after reading your column."
WND spoke with RC, who says the anonymity of his conservative columns on a liberal blog is for good reason.

"I truly feel like there are some seriously deranged liberals out there. Though they try to make it appear as if only deranged conservatives are prone to violence, I feel the opposite is true," he told WND.

RC said that he pitched the idea of an anonymous, conservative column on the Huffington Post to Arianna Huffington herself, after meeting her at a United Nations event in New York.

He pitched the idea like this: "Ms. Huffington, you and I couldn't be any more different politically. However, something you and I share in common is our unique ability to make ourselves understood and our opinions heard in print or on TV."

He told WND that she replied, "Yes and so?"

RC then explained his vision to Huffington, after which she replied, "I would love that."

The vision? "I would be attracting more readers – conservative, liberal and everything all the way to apolitical readers, readers period – to her site which she readily agreed she needs," RC told WND.

Not long after that, "The Relentless Conservative" began running a featured column on the pages of The Huffington Post.

His first column, "Why the Left Should Listen to the Right," had so many comments from readers that it was picked up by the Wall Street Journal online.

While some comments attacked RC personally and some simply said, "This is a joke, right?," RC proved something that he had intuitively guessed; there already are conservatives watching the site.

Some of the comments verified that:

•"Keep posting brother."

•"You are right."
Then there was this comment:

"Bravo, bravo. Finally I can read an honest contributor at the Huff & Puff, without getting ill."
According to RC, having conservative readers on their site was a surprise to Huffington and her staff.

"The HuffPo has many more conservative readers than even they thought. The conventional wisdom was that there were almost NO conservative readers of HuffPo," he told WND.

Reader comments aside, writing for the Huffington Post has produced other headaches for the conservative columnist. He told WND that sometimes the editors have taken longer than normal to publish his work, and sometimes have miniscule issues to work out.

"When I have to follow up with them about my columns on hold, they normally have a few, usually rather serious concerns regarding my wording being 'threatening,' a fact-checking issue or some journalistic minutiae or the other. It seems suspicious to me, but they assure me it is not."

Some articles never make it to the site, which forced RC to confront one editor with, "I know you don't like my politics, and I don't much like yours, but can we set that aside and get down to business?"

Another issue he deals with is prime positioning. His conservative pieces have never made it to the homepage. You have to do some hunting through the site to turn them up. He hopes to resolve that with Huffington in the near future.

Even so, RC says the comments following his columns prove that he is on to something. He told WND that he feels he's even gotten through to a few of the "less dense" liberal readers.

He says, "Out of the many foul-mouthed, hateful missives in the comment sections of my article, a few truly common-sense, Thomas Paine-like ones come shining through."

When WND asked RC if he's always been conservative he replied, "Nope, like Winston Churchill's great quote: 'If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at 40, you have no brain.'"

RC recalled that he rode his bike down to George McGovern campaign headquarters to volunteer during the Democratic nominee's 1972 presidential run against Nixon.

"I hated Nixon, which I believe is a dynamic of youth," he said. "Nowadays, I grimace when I think of myself doing that; idiot kid."

For now RC plans to continue reaching out to the Huffington Post readers with his steady voice of conservatism.

"It never ceases to amaze how after the fall of communism and the freeing of hundreds of millions of Russians, Eastern Europeans and Europeans, that anybody could justify or even attempt to, any political beliefs or leanings resembling communism, socialism or Marxism/Leninism. It's all just evil," he said.

"And the latte-sipping, BMW-driving, 'Limousine Liberals' who talk such a good game about caring about their fellow man … these are the people I'd like to talk some sense into; to shake by the shoulders until they wake up.

"Forgive them God, for they know not what they do," he said.