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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114437)	10/2/2011 9:06:06 PM
From: lorne	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224677

ken...Wow, new laws work pretty fast...will be interesting to see if you have a sudden population increase in lib- land. ...Hispanic students vanish from Alabama schools By JAY REEVES - Associated Press \| – Fri, Sep 30, 2011.. news.yahoo.com ....BIRMINGHAM, Alabama (AP) — Hispanic students have started vanishing from Alabama public schools in the wake of a court ruling that upheld the state's tough new law cracking down on illegal immigration. Education officials say scores of immigrant families have withdrawn their children from classes or kept them home this week, afraid that sending the kids to school would draw attention from authorities. There are no precise statewide numbers. But several districts with large immigrant enrollments — from small towns to large urban districts — reported a sudden exodus of children of Hispanic parents, some of whom told officials they planned to leave the state to avoid trouble with the law, which requires schools to check students' immigration status. The anxiety has become so intense that the superintendent in one of the state's largest cities, Huntsville, went on a Spanish-language television show Thursday to try to calm widespread worries. "In the case of this law, our students do not have anything to fear," Casey Wardynski said in halting Spanish. He urged families to send students to class and explained that the state is only trying to compile statistics. Police, he insisted, were not getting involved in schools. Victor Palafox graduated from a high school in suburban Birmingham last year and has lived in the United States without documentation since age 6, when his parents brought him and his brother here from Mexico. "Younger students are watching their lives taken from their hands," said Palafox, whose family is staying put. In Montgomery County, more than 200 Hispanic students were absent the morning after the judge's Wednesday ruling. A handful withdrew. In tiny Albertville, 35 students withdrew in one day. And about 20 students in Shelby County, in suburban Birmingham, either withdrew or told teachers they were leaving. Local and state officials are pleading with immigrant families to keep their children enrolled. The law does not ban anyone from school, they say, and neither students nor parents will be arrested for trying to get an education. But many Spanish-speaking families aren't waiting around to see what happens. A school worker in Albertville — a community with a large poultry industry that employs many Hispanic workers — said Friday that many families might leave town over the weekend for other states. About 22 percent of the community's 4,200 students are Hispanic. "I met a Hispanic mother in the hallway at our community learning center this morning, where enrollment and withdrawal happens. She looked at me with tears in her eyes. I asked, 'Are you leaving?' She said 'Yes,' and hugged me, crying," said the worker, who spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not an authorized spokeswoman. In Russellville, which has one of the largest immigrant populations in the state because of its poultry plants, overall school attendance was down more than 2 percent after the ruling, and the rate was higher among Hispanic students. There's "no firm data yet, but several students have related to their teachers that they may be moving soon," said George Harper, who works in the central office. Schools in Baldwin County, a heavily agricultural and tourist area near the Gulf Coast, and in Decatur in the Tennessee Valley also reported sudden decreases in Hispanic attendance. The law does not require proof of citizenship to enroll, and it does not apply to any students who were enrolled before Sept. 1. While most students are not affected, school systems are supposed to begin checking the status of first-time enrollees now. The Obama administration filed court documents Friday announcing its plans to appeal the ruling that upheld the law. The state has distributed to schools sample letters that can be sent to parents of new students informing them of the law's requirements for either citizenship documents or sworn statements by parents. In an attempt to ease suspicions that the law may lead to arrests, the letter tells parents immigration information will be used only to gather statistics. "Rest assured," the letter states, "that it will not be a problem if you are unable or unwilling to provide either of the documents."

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114437)	10/3/2011 6:38:25 AM
From: lorne	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224677

ken...So what do you think..seems hussein obama's plan for Egypt working out the way he planned. U.S. met with Egypt Islamists: U.S. diplomat By Edmund Blair CAIRO \| Sun Oct 2, 2011 reuters.com (Reuters) - U.S. officials have met members of the Muslim Brotherhood's political party, a U.S. diplomat said, after Washington announced it would have direct contacts with Egypt's biggest Islamist group whose role has grown since U.S. ally Hosni Mubarak was ousted. Washington announced the plans in June, portraying such contacts as the continuation of an earlier policy. But analysts said it reflected a new approach to the way it dealt with a group which Mubarak banned from politics. The Brotherhood is one of Egypt's most popular and organized groups, with a broad grassroots network built up partly through social work even in Mubarak's era. The contacts may unsettle Israel and its U.S. backers. The Brotherhood renounced violence as a means to achieve political change in Egypt years ago. But groups like Hamas, which have not disavowed violence, look to the Brotherhood as a spiritual guide. Under the previous policy, U.S. diplomats were allowed to deal with the Brotherhood's members of parliament who had won seats as "independents" to skirt the official ban. This offered a diplomatic cover to keep lines of communication open. "We have had direct contacts with senior officials of the Freedom and Justice party," the senior diplomat told Reuters, referring to the Brotherhood's party that was founded after politics opened up following the ouster of Mubarak. The diplomat said U.S. officials did not make a distinction between members of the Brotherhood or its party. "We don't have a policy that makes a distinction, that one or the other is off limits," he said, without saying when the meetings took place. The diplomat was responding to a question about whether any meetings had occurred, after Freedom Justice Party Chairman Mohamed Mursi told Egypt's Al-Dostour newspaper last week that U.S. officials had not made contact since the policy shift. Speaking to Reuters on Sunday, the party deputy head Essam el-Erian also denied any meetings had taken place with U.S. officials when asked about the diplomat's comments. It was not immediately clear why the two sides gave different accounts. "HIGH-LEVEL" MEETINGS U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was asked in an interview broadcast on Saturday with Egypt's Al-Hayat television whether Washington would be ready to work with a future government that included members of the Brotherhood. "We will be willing to and open to working with a government that has representatives who are committed to non-violence, who are committed to human rights, who are committed to the democracy that I think was hoped for in Tahrir Square," she replied, according to a U.S. transcript. Under the former Egyptian president, the Brotherhood was banned and its members often detained. Mubarak often presented himself as the bulwark preventing Egypt's slide into Islamist hands, an approach that analysts said help secure him backing from Washington and other Western powers wary that Egypt could turn into another Iran or Gaza. The group took a backseat in the early part of the anti-Mubarak uprising, which was broadly led by youth groups who put national concerns above religion. But the Brotherhood and its party have taken a increasingly prominent role since. The diplomat said the U.S. contacts had been with "high-level" members of the Brotherhood's party but did not give names. From the U.S. side, he said the contacts were not at ambassadorial level but he did not give further details. "We had occasionally had these contacts in the past ... The difference is in the past we had seen parliamentarians," he said. Egypt's parliament was dissolved after Mubarak's fall. Fresh elections for the lower house are due to start in November, with a vote for the upper house early next year. The Brotherhood is expected to perform well in the vote, although many analysts expect a fairly fragmented parliament with no single unified voice emerging. The diplomat said contacts with the Brotherhood were part of an bid to understand Egypt better and explain U.S. policies. "From our perspective it is important to be in touch with all of the emerging political forces here in Egypt, across the board, that are peaceful and committed to non-violence," he said. "It helps to understand Egypt and the way the political system is developing, and it helps us to deliver our message and get them to understand where we are coming from," he added. (Additional reporting by Tamim Elyan; Editing by Rosalind Russell)

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114437)	10/3/2011 6:39:31 AM
From: Hope Praytochange	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224677

U.S. futures drop amid further Greece fears 10/03 02:49 AM LONDON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stock market futures pointed to a weak start to the fourth quarter Monday after Greece reportedly said it won't meet its budget deficit target this year. The situation in Greece, as well as worries over China's financial health, also contributed to heavy losses for Asian markets. Futures on the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 95 points to 10,746 and those on the Standard & Poor's 500 index fell 10.50 points to 1,115.50. Nasdaq 100 futures dropped 24.25 points to 2,110.25. firms trimmed pension because odumba and taxcheater's failures on fiscal and financial policies

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114437)	10/3/2011 7:28:01 AM
From: Hope Praytochange	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224677

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (114437)	10/3/2011 9:01:25 AM
From: JakeStraw	6 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224677

Chris Christie blasted President Obama for dividing the nation along class-warfare lines: “Telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others . . . trying to cynically convince those who are suffering that the American economic pie is no longer a growing one . . . insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the American dream . . . is a demoralizing message for America.”