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To: average joe who wrote (81019)10/8/2011 4:14:49 AM
From: Maurice Winn3 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217588
 
And they should not limit it to themselves, they should demand it for everyone in Africa: <Demand Three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. > I'd like one too please.

Damn straight - 800 million Africans and the rest of the Mexicans would have the right to enjoy their living wage right there in the USA. That would keep the money INSIDE the USA too! <Demand Nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live. >

Yes, with all those jobs created, there will be a need for umpty million new neutrino physicists, doctors, electronics engineers and software developers and the new immigrants will no doubt be qualified: < These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy > Might as well raise the minimum wage to $100 an hour. $20 isn't much these days.

Go for $5 trillion <Demand Six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now. > Really make things happen. $1 trillion isn't what it used to be.

Mqurice



To: average joe who wrote (81019)10/8/2011 3:17:58 PM
From: bart132 Recommendations  Respond to of 217588
 
Has anyone noted the word PROPOSED?

Has anyone wondered WHO or WHAT proposed it, and WHY?



To: average joe who wrote (81019)10/8/2011 3:39:17 PM
From: Snowshoe  Respond to of 217588
 
It's just some junk that one person submitted to a public forum.



To: average joe who wrote (81019)10/8/2011 6:33:41 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217588
 
the poster of the proposed demands is really totally clueless



To: average joe who wrote (81019)10/9/2011 3:03:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217588
 
Interesting. All we need to do to make the world a better place is make everything free, except for trade.

Well, we've seen where those ideas lead before. Many times. It never ends well, but that doesn't stop people from dreaming that they can outlaw entropy and finally, finally, everybody gets a free lunch, forever.

My own take on this is that this is the old, old story of the contradictions of globalization. Every time the world has approached a truly global economy, it's collapsed, because some people lose, and they can't (or won't) adapt, and there have been enough of them to shut the doors and try to turn back the clock.

Almost 100 years ago:

'The Economic Consequences of the Peace’ What an extraordinary episode in the economic progress of man that age was which came to an end in August, 1914! The greater part of the population, it is true, worked hard and lived at a low standard of comfort, yet were, to all appearances, reasonably contented with this lot. But escape was possible, for any man of capacity or character at all exceeding the average, into the middle and upper classes, for whom life offered, at a low cost and with the least trouble, conveniences, comforts, and amenities beyond the compass of the richest and most powerful monarchs of other ages. The inhabitant of London could order by telephone, sipping his morning tea in bed, the various products of the whole earth, in such quantity as he might see fit, and reasonably expect their early delivery upon his door-step; he could at the same moment and by the same means adventure his wealth in the natural resources and new enterprises of any quarter of the world, and share, without exertion or even trouble, in their prospective fruits and advantages; or he could decide to couple the security of his fortunes with the good faith of the townspeople of any substantial municipality in any continent that fancy or information might recommend. He could secure forthwith, if he wished it, cheap and comfortable means of transit to any country or climate without passport or other formality, could despatch his servant to the neighboring office of a bank for such supply of the precious metals as might seem convenient, and could then proceed abroad to foreign quarters, without knowledge of their religion, language, or customs, bearing coined wealth upon his person, and would consider himself greatly aggrieved and much surprised at the least interference. But, most important of all, he regarded this state of affairs as normal, certain, and permanent, except in the direction of further improvement, and any deviation from it as aberrant, scandalous, and avoidable. The projects and politics of militarism and imperialism, of racial and cultural rivalries, of monopolies, restrictions, and exclusion, which were to play the serpent to this paradise, were little more than the amusements of his daily newspaper, and appeared to exercise almost no influence at all on the ordinary course of social and economic life, the internationalization of which was nearly complete in practice.

—John Maynard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, New York: Harcourt, Brace and Howe, 1920, pp. 10 –12.