To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (81262 ) 10/11/2011 2:44:45 PM From: benwood Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 219888 Sounds like you like to do it yourself too. More of curse with me, it seems. I've torn off and replace my roof, installed drainpipes, lots of wiring, put up an external antenna, mounted a weather station and put it on the internet, built a home network before wi-fi came along, replace water heaters (twice), put in two dishwashers, numerous ceiling lights and motion lights, created a variable attic fan setup out of a barn fan, reamed sewage drains, modified plumbing (iron), stripped and painted my house, repaired siding, sealed the brick facade and cracks in the chimney, done some miner drywall, replace sinks and numerous faucets, installed toilets, vinyl flooring, repaired my espresso machine, fixed fans, heaters, coffee makers, fridge defrost timers, repaired my dishwasher twice, build drawers and cupboards, built a single and later a double cedar futon frame, built a nice computer desk. Plus I've built about a twenty computers over the years from mobos etc. I've done troubleshooting and repairs on my cars for alternators, water pumps, plugs, emission devices, fuel filter (ick...), cruise control, car stereos and speakers. Thanks, Dad. Or Curses! Dad. Not sure which. But I have my limits. My house has lousy plumbing (some right angles instead of curves, that kind of crap). At some point, it's either buy a pro snake machine and learn to use it, or farm it out. My brother in law was using a pro level machine where he works running a KOA in eastern Washington and it got a knot that rapidly ran up the line to his hand and tore off the last knuckle of his pinky and ring finger on his left hand. That pretty much keeps me from being a weekend expert with a tool like that.