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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: joseffy who wrote (116068)	10/22/2011 9:21:46 AM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Read Replies (9) \| Respond to of 224742

Speaking of dumb, Iraq was certainly a dumb war and George W. Bush made the dumbest foreign policy decision since Viet Nam. Obama was smart enough to know it was a dumb war way back in 2002 when Bush and Cheney were beating the war drums.

To: joseffy who wrote (116068)	10/22/2011 10:21:29 AM
From: Hope Praytochange	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224742

Biden's Criminal Lies Posted 10/21/2011 07:00 PM ET Stimulus: Vice President Joe Biden's challenge to the GOP that blocking the jobs bill would mean more rapes and murders is beneath even the remarkably low standard he's set for that office. His claim is also utterly bogus. Talk about desperation. In trying to sell President Obama's latest jobs bill, Biden claimed more people would be murdered and raped if it failed to pass, because states would have to lay off cops. Without the $35 billion in new federal grants to states, he said, "murder will continue to rise, rape will continue to rise, all crimes will continue to rise. "I wish they," meaning Republicans, "had some notion what it's like to be on the other side of a gun. Or (to have) a 200-pound man standing over you telling you to submit," he also said this week. Instead of walking Biden's comments back, the White House rose to his defense. "I think everyone will agree with the equation that fewer police officers on the street has a direct effect on the crime rate," press secretary Jay Carney said. "That is the point that the president absolutely shares." But you don't have to look very hard to discover the claim is completely false. As the table shows, from 2008 to 2010, the number of full-time law enforcement officers nationwide fell 3,560. Yet during those same years, rape, murder, aggravated assault and other violent crimes also declined, according to the FBI's readily available Uniform Crime Report. Rapes eased by 7% and murders by 11%. Conversely, from 2000 to 2006, there were 1,723 more murders and 4,294 more rapes, despite the addition of 29,000 cops, data show. Does this mean more cops equal more crime? Hardly. But as Michigan State University criminal justice expert David Carter told the Washington Post: "There is limited to no correlation between the number of officers and the homicide rate." It's bad enough the administration will do whatever it takes to get re-elected. But trying to scare Americans into backing a dubious "jobs" bill by lying about its effects on rape and murder is truly contemptible.