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Pastimes : Audio/Video Gearhead Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Cogito who wrote (145)	10/25/2011 3:44:22 PM
From: HerbVic	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 172

Man I spent a couple of hours last night trying to find out if the sub was simply a self powered sub or if it would also power the two satellites. Everywhere I looked the specs were either ambiguous or missing altogether. One listing showed only one output at line level. Another showed speaker output, but it was on the cheaper 6" Velodyne. Found the image of the rear of the sub, but it was reduced in size and the labeling was unreadable. I'm really considering upgrading the 2/1 setup on the main TV sometime early next year. While the Altec Lansing 6021 is crisp and clean in the mid to high range at most any volume, the bottom is a bit muddy. But, my biggest complaint is poor equalization with adjustments only for treble and bass in large step digital increments. This leads to an inability to compensate correctly for the TV's legacy bias toward the high end. At the most naturally sounding setting, I find it difficult to understand what some women are saying. I think it's a characteristic of the tinnitus masking the higher frequencies just enough to make it difficult to pick up on their enunciations. I can hear them speaking. Just can't tell what they are saying. As I was reading reviews of the Velodyne subs, I noticed mention of a microphone set up device for balancing the output to the room. Can you fill me in on that? I take it from your post that the Denon AVR-2807 is not necessary for a 2/1 setup? So, if I bought a Velodyne powered sub and a pair of Paradigms, I'd be able to replace the Altec Lansing 6021 on the LR TV? Does it have or need any equalization?

To: Cogito who wrote (145)	10/25/2011 5:28:46 PM
From: Doren	Respond to of 172

> It's not a high-end setup he he. Funny stuff. It's relative. Not a high end set up. I bought my SAE floor standing speakers from a dumb metal head for $20 (!) at a garage sale. They are not as nice as my blown out Electrovoice ETR-14s from 40 years ago but as long as I don't turn the SAEs up too loud they sound pretty good. The woofers distort. At normal volumes (which means very loud to most people) there is IMHO about a 5% difference from my buddies $3000 speakers. I've got some old Dahlquist speakers up in my attic. I had them out until I actually hooked up the SAE speakers which to my surprise sounded much nicer. Some of it is in the ear of the beholder or more accurately the brain. My buddy listens to jazz soloists for nuance mostly, or at least he did before he stopped listening almost all together. He has a fabulous collection. I listen to structure mostly. I'm aware of less accurate reproduction when the bass mushes out or unclear super upper range stuff but I'm not really listening for clarity of that so much as separation and spatial. My listening interests are decidedly cheaper since string quartets, and jazz quartets can be quite pricey, while piano concertos, symphonies and most modern rock or electronic recordings are relatively cheap. In fact I make music and rather than have a surround sound system I'd rather have a four speaker system with speakers at all four corners in front of me. Everyone thinks stereo as left and right but it seems to me UP and DOWN is really more important for the way we as humans discern musical sound. If I were performing MUSIC on a stage I'd love to be able to locate sounds more accurately in front of my audience. Of course in a movie situation you would want to hear the train behind you as it passes.