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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Rocky Mountain Int'l (OTC:RMIL former OTC:OVIS) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John Gault who wrote (20173)	11/19/1997 11:32:00 PM
From: michael d kugler	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 55532

Part of the reason I asked is because my original caveat was left off the short selling article which appeared on this thread. The caveat said there could be problems later, when trying to sell. Riley and Clarksburg conveniently left this off of the article. So having your certificates effectively cost you money, a bunch of time, a lot of hassle, etc. This is what I was talking about. Did they have to verify the certificate would clear before they let you sell? And what firm was it?

To: John Gault who wrote (20173)	11/19/1997 11:46:00 PM
From: Riley G	Respond to of 55532

From: JBeckingto@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: converstaion w/pinerolo Top part edited out....(Riley G) Pinerolo: We did bussiness together and I'm in an ackward position at the moment but this cartel your dealing with missed their opportunity. No names can't take chances JBeckingto: They say they can count over 2.8 million shares owned by the cartel, how have they missed the oppotunity.. About your name, come on, all someone has to do is call a friend at AOL headquarters Pinerolo: Someone in your ranks sold over together with about 500,000 shares not so long ago and lied about it in a upstate bar. They say but is it true let them fax copies of OVIV to you. JBeckingto: who should I question,? Pinerolo: If they have OVIS then they can prove it I meen the players not the unknowns. Your MIchael at Riley JBeckingto: your not making sense to me, who is Michael at Riley? what players? Pinerolo: He orchestrated the whole deal but was lied to they sold at under $4.00 As well as rode it up last year past 50.00 JBeckingto: the "he" and "they"'s are losing me. 50$ last year, what are you taking about Pinerolo: Ovis had a high last year how do you think it got so high? JBeckingto: ok, what about the 2.8 million shares Riley says he can personally account for. besides which there maybe another 1million or so owned by lurkers Pinerolo: Ovis then began a downwood spiral while the market makers sold it down. People like Riley then sold and re-purchased at a lower price we saw it happening but didn't attribute the buying by a controld group for the purcashing occured all over however you people broke ranks and the short side was covered ask Riley to get Faxes of the OVIS shares showing certificate numbers I believe he has been misled. JBeckingto: What about all the people bashing ovis on the si thread. aLL that type of garbage has to give some creditility to the assurtion that short still exist in large numbers, doesn't it? JBeckingto: do you know what the connection is between dempsey mork and alphonso giacetti is?, if any. Pinerolo: TA agent was unknowingly manipulated and people got nervous and all the BB chatter worked but in the end they began to believe the MM,s and the ranks broke.Proof is a simple Fax from the holders of OVIS one Fax from the 25,000 lot share holders will tell it all ask Riley to ask for the Fax,s show it to all. Name don,t mean anything the old board is laughing they covered before resigning they are laughing at us. Pinerolo: Truth is stranger than fiction if they did,t sell we would not have covered. In its own right RMIL will eventuall go provided Hong Cong invests and they do need cheap water. Pinerolo: Riley you lost because of disloyal men who let fear and greed dictate their way. JBeckingto: are you speaking with Riley now? Pinerolo: Well you and Reily both know the truth don,t you. JBeckingto: me and riley,,,, how would I know what his numbers are. I can't independently verify. However I can say over 1.3 million shares are in cert form..(dtc). Why all the chatter over on si NOW JBeckingto: how can you be so sure the cartel doen't own over 3 million shares Pinerolo: Because at least 1 million shares of sales other than shorts past my desk or I should say a friends desk. The sellers are members of your so called cartel but listen don,t take my word for it just ask members to Fax copies of their certificates to you. JBeckingto: ok thanks for your time. have a nice day. Pinerolo: Stay well and confirm everything and if a short exists its on the Canadian side. JBeckingto: so you think one can still exist. How large could it be? JBeckingto: why don't you know how large it is? Pinerolo: Because we covered our end but Calif is still short and is trading amoung themselves Cana had a major short over 2MIl JBeckingto: what????? I thought ca was the only shorter. Then you must be alphonso? Can you find out if cana is still short? JBeckingto: ca still short, how short. Pinerolo: Since the merger with RMIL they havent been able to get their shit togther with Calf but notice the little trading you guys should force Calif and Canada dealing hand and hand by buying at the market or let them stabilize it at $2.00? JBeckingto: Why don't you think it can work if several people are still short, the whole float is almost in cert form. If all the float gets put in cert form they will be forced to cover, right? JBeckingto: ca is short thru canada, is that what your saying? Pinerolo: They would find it cheaper to buy RMIL then cover the short side so you have got to get your certificates and tell everyone to by without asking them to produce Faxs? get the faxs and keep buying youll win.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The float listen are your sure of what they are telling you they have get the proof Yes their is a short but they are trying to get to RMIL so keep buying and win you need another 1mil shares but prove to the cartel that you control 3mil shares. JBeckingto: do you know how large short ca is? Pinerolo: Get fax from you buyers the show it to all the stakes are high thmm are frightened especiall Calf Canada will take the loss. Very large and I can,t say but buy their selling amoung themselves, Pinerolo: CNN knows about it but dosent believe it. JBeckingto: well, over 1.3 in cert form now(verified by dtc) as soon as the new TA gets setup the remaining shares will be put in to cert form as well. I'm not sure how ca can get out of this Pinerolo: The selling is only to show stability in the market place get onto AMEX or Nasdaq TA cant del what he dosent have Canada reports glitch in purchase SEC says shame on you but catch Calif then they get fined and must offer a share buyout or cover the short. Pinerolo: Ask for the cartwel to get faxes of OVIS if you have more then 1,6000,000 we win. JBeckingto: over 1.3 now. we will see soon enough. "we win" are you short or are you long? JBeckingto: can you explain again how ca can get out of covering. I couldn't follow you last time. if you're not ca what group are you with? Pinerolo: I was short and now I am lon big time but You guys have got to stay strong and keep buying then they will believe your for real they we can avoid covering the short side I will loose my job but make millions but if you fail then being long wont hurt me but if the squeese happens they will ask me for my shares and ill say no way WE WIN BUY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JBeckingto: if your long why did you bash riley? Pinerolo: Because he dosent force his following members to prove they own OVIS by getting FAX s just taking them for their word affords them to sell with caring as we or the mm have shook the tree. JBeckingto: can you call me? Pinerolo: Reily means well but he trusts to much he must demand proof you are winning but some of your guys are tired of the chase stop them from selling Im still buying and my guys think Im on their side but if you pull it off and it goes amex Ill never work the streetrk again but who cares buy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Cant call our phones are over seen and its best not to show calussion Pinerolo: I must sign off I have to meet my fellow brookers for drinks buy dont sell it will happen they collectivly need about 2mil to cover JBeckingto: good luck, bye