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To: RetiredNow who wrote (103810)11/3/2011 1:20:58 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
Mindmeld, I have no problem facing facts, but you are not putting things in perspective or being logical. I feel you are posting Ron Pauls talking points and IMO he is sort of nuts.

Here is what I mean by perspective.

Let us start from the beginning: When Clinton left we had a budget surplus of almost 300 billion and it was felt we would be out of debt by 2012 if bush had just continued on Clinton's path.

When Bush got in the very first thing he did was give that surplus, and a trillion more, in tax cuts to the rich instead of paying off the debt. He told people he was giving it to the rich saying it was their money. He did it two more times and then ran two wars off budget. Then bush went on to almost bankrupt us.

In the 50's top tax rates on the rich were 90%! The Republicans (ncluding Ron Paul) will not let us raise any taxes , close tax loop holes or even go back to the Clinton years. But if we need more money why not raise taxes even more??

The reason we have these massive deficits are twofold: 1) taxes are too low and 2) we are still digging out of the hole bush put us in. But the present expenditurres are an anomaly caused by the depression like in the 30's and 40's.

These massive deficits could be cured overnight if we raised taxes. We need to raise taxes big time!

Ron Paul does not want to raise taxes mindmeld. You should know that. He wants to cut our social security and medicare. Which is nuts!

We must raise taxes.

<<Here are the facts. Our government IS BLOATED. We spend $3.7 trillion, but bring in tax revenues of $2.2 trillion, for a deficit of $1.5 Trillion per year! There is no way you can call that anything but bloated. Spending is way out of control. It has increased dramatically over the last 10 years. Look at the chart below. This is obscene. The military is a large part of it, yes. But so are Entitlements. Entitlements now represent 45% of our budget spend and that will increase every year as 10,000 Baby Boomers retire every day!



To: RetiredNow who wrote (103810)11/3/2011 2:53:24 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
Thirty companies paid no U.S. income tax 2008-2010: report

(Reuters) - Thirty large and profitable U.S. corporations paid no income taxes in 2008 through 2010, said a study on Thursday that arrives as Congress faces rising demands for tax reform but seems unable or unwilling to act.
Pepco Holdings Inc, a Washington, D.C.-area power company, had the lowest effective tax rate, at negative 57.6 percent, among the 280 Fortune 500 companies studied.
The statutory U.S. corporate income tax rate is 35 percent, one of the highest in the world; but over the 2008-2010 period, very few of the companies studied paid it, said the report.
The average effective tax rate for the companies over the period was 18.5 percent, said Citizens for Tax Justice and the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, both think tanks.
Their report also listed General Electric Co, Paccar Inc, PG&E Corp, Computer Sciences Corp, Boeing Co and NiSource Inc as among the 30 that paid no taxes.
(For a related graphic, click on r.reuters.com.
Corporations will say rightly that the loopholes that let them slash their taxes were perfectly legal, the report said.
"But that does not mean that low-tax corporations bear no responsibility ... The laws were not enacted in a vacuum; they were adopted in response to relentless corporate lobbying, threats and campaign support," the report said.
Some of the 30 companies disputed the report's findings.
A Pepco spokesman said it "pays all its required taxes."
Boeing paid its taxes "between 2008-2010 ... Our effective income tax rate was 26.5 percent, 22.9 percent, 33.6 percent in 2010, 2009, 2008," said a spokesman for the aerospace group.
PRESSING FOR MORE
As Congress and the Obama administration struggle with a sluggish economy and high deficits, corporations are pressing Capitol Hill for more tax breaks and a lower corporate rate.
Taxes are on the agenda of the congressional "super committee" tasked with finding at least $1.2 trillion in additional budget savings by November 23, but it is so far deadlocked across a familiar divide -- Republicans refusing any tax increases, Democrats defending social programs.
On Tuesday, a panel of budget experts warned super committee members they would fail the country if they did not meet their goal. Financial markets have been waiting for many months for signs that Washington can get its financial house in order, but few have been forthcoming.
The report referred back to the 1986 tax reform pushed through by President Ronald Reagan, a Republican, who approved the largest corporate tax increase in U.S. history, largely by ending tax breaks, while cutting individual tax rates.
"Reagan solved the problem by sweeping away corporate tax loopholes," said the report, which was coauthored by Citizens for Tax Justice chief Robert McIntyre. His research 25 years ago played a key role in convincing Reagan reform was needed.
The industrial machinery business enjoyed the lowest effective tax rate during the study period, while the highest rate was paid by healthcare companies, the report said.
"Big Business is getting away with taxation murder," said Frank Knapp, vice chairman of the American Sustainable Business Council, a progressive business coalition.
"They pay little or no taxes on massive U.S. profits and then have the gall to lobby for ... a tax holiday to 'repatriate' profits they have stashed offshore."
MANY TAX BREAKS
What are some of the tax breaks that corporations enjoy? One big one is accelerated depreciation that lets them write off equipment faster than it actually wears out. Deductions on executive stock options help. So do tax breaks for research and development and for making products in the United States instead of overseas. Offshore tax shelters play a role, too.
Power group Duke Energy Corp was one of the 30 companies listed as paying no income taxes in 2008-2010.
Chief Executive James Rogers told Reuters that Duke cut its taxes thanks to accelerated depreciation, which he said helped the company build new plants and hire construction workers.
Rogers is a frequent spokesman for a coalition of large multinationals seeking a tax break that would let them bring foreign profits into the United States at a reduced tax rate.
Others among the 30 companies included power producer American Electric Power Co Inc (AEP), chemicals company DuPont and toymaker Mattel Inc.
Like Duke, AEP said it benefited from accelerated depreciation. A Mattel spokesperson said the report's claims were inconsistent with the company's public financial filings.
"DuPont complies with all tax laws and regulations in every jurisdiction in which it operates," said a DuPont spokeswoman.
The average effective corporate tax rate, as calculated by McIntyre's group, was about 14 percent before the Reagan reforms; afterward it shot up to 26.5 percent in 1988.
As companies found their way around the reforms, the effective rate fell back to about 17 percent by 2002-2003.
Unlike in Reagan's time, taming corporate tax breaks alone will not solve the deficit problem. Such breaks cost the government about $102 billion in lost revenues in 2011, a year when the federal deficit was an estimated $1.3 trillion.
Corporate loopholes are dwarfed by tax breaks that benefit individuals, such as the mortgage interest tax deduction -- a middle class sacred cow, on its own worth $104 billion.
Still, said the report: "If we are going to get our nation's fiscal house in order, increasing corporate income taxes should play an important role."



To: RetiredNow who wrote (103810)11/3/2011 7:25:05 PM
From: tonto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
Good post. Debt increased every year and there never was a surplus during the Clinton years. Only public debt was being reported and it did not include intergovernmental. (money borrowed and owed to SS)

Taxing the "rich" is political instead of fiscally sound. Going back to Clinton tax rates for everyone makes more sense and cutting spending significantly is also required. Unfortunately, buying votes get in the way...