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To: epicure who wrote (175353)	11/4/2011 7:53:53 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 541736

Agree, can't ever support guilty until proven innocent. Sort of the foundation of our democracy-lol. But re Wall Street they have (Dodd report I think?) the specific evidence of fraud, and just won't prosecute. They sometimes issue fines which is what drives matt Taibbi nuts. That Mozzelo (sic) of c ountrywide was blaantly involved in fraud an had to pay a 60 million fine but got to keep the other 200 million or so. I am sure there are many bank robber and organized criminals who would love to buy their way out of jail. Especially with the money they stole-lol.

To: epicure who wrote (175353)	11/4/2011 8:46:04 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 541736

To: epicure who wrote (175353)	11/5/2011 2:11:09 AM
From: bentway	Respond to of 541736

That's how the Napoleonic system of justice worked. "The possibility for justice to endorse lengthy remand periods was one reason why the Napoleonic Code was criticized for de facto presumption of guilt, particularly in common law countries. Another reason was the combination of magistrate and prosecutor in one position. [6] However, the legal proceedings certainly did not have de jure presumption of guilt; for instance, the juror's oath explicitly recommended that the jury did not betray the interests of the defendants, and took attention of the means of defense." en.wikipedia.org The state decided you were guilty, and it was up to you to prove your innocence. The judge was also the prosecutor! No conflict of interest THERE!