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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (175487)	11/7/2011 8:24:59 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542009

Why do Finnish schools do so well? Because they have a tiny homogeneous society where everyone is fairly well educated, and there is a universal respect for education, and they have excellent social services to support the dysfunctional. None of that applies in the US. No big mystery about Finland's success. If you recall the tracking fracas in the schools, you will understand the power of homogeneous classes. It is so easy to teach groups of similar young people, and very hard to teach classes with many different children- especially when some of the children are not fluent in the native language being taught. That's an education killer. Fins are fluent in Finnish, and they don't have an immigrant population to speak of. hudson-ny.org They don't like immigrants, and they don't have many, so their schools remain "pure". That makes it easier to teach.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (175487)	11/7/2011 10:03:26 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542009

Because the parents tech the kids in Finland!! Same with all educated parents. Educated prents make sure etheir kids get educated if they have to use chalk boards! Half of what my kids know came from my wives and me. But when the parents cannot or won't teach the kids then it is up to society. Kids born in middle class families self actualize with a 50/50 ratio i.e. 50% genes and 50% nurture. But kids born in ghettos it is 10/90 i.e. 10% genes and 90% nurture. So that is where society has to come in with programs like head start to supplant the lackof parents involvement. Best for society to get them educated one way or the other. The good thing about kids going to lots of public schools which have the good the bad and the ungly teachers is that they will still get a good education and most importantly having randon teachers which avois the death nail of eucation, "DOGMA"! << There is plenty of blame to go around and deservedly so. Teachers blame society/parents and society blames teachers. Just another of those issues that is ripe for a man of vision and leadership otherwise nothing will change. Why do Finnish schools do so good? They spend little money on education (comparatively), kids don't have homework, kids don't start school until they are seven and they are for the most part latch-key children.