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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (117442)	11/10/2011 7:06:57 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	5 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224756

No, Mitt. You didn't care at all. You said to let GM go bankrupt. Isn't that what the OWS crowd says about the banks? Wouldn't the consistent position be to say no bailouts for anybody? why is it ok to bailout the car companies and not ok to bailout the banks? (note: I vote for no bailouts. No bailout for GM, no bailout for banks and no bailout for lazy punks who don't want to pay off their loans)

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (117442)	11/10/2011 7:25:54 PM
From: Carolyn	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224756

They should have. Then the unions would go away and not own the company, screwing out a bunch of bondholders.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (117442)	11/10/2011 10:46:48 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	7 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 224756

Odumbama's Virginia Defeat Demorats were trounced in Tuesday's state legislature election, despite the idiot odumba's heavy investment of time in the state. Of all the noise of this week's state election results, what mattered most for Election 2012 came out of Virginia. It was the sound of the air leaking out of the Plouffe plan. That would be David Plouffe, Obama's former campaign manager and current senior strategist, who is focused today on how to cobble together 270 electoral votes for re-election. That's proving tough, what with the economy hurting . Obama in states like Ohio, Indiana and Pennsylvania that he won in 2008. The White House's response has been to pin its hopes on a more roundabout path to electoral victory, one based on the Southern and Western states Mr. Obama also claimed in 2008. States like Virginia. Mr. Obama was the first Democrat to win Virginia since 1964; he beat John McCain by seven percentage points; and he did so on the strength of his appeal to Northern Virginia's many white-collar independents. Along with victories in North Carolina, Colorado and Nevada, the Obama Old Dominion win in 2008 inspired a flurry of stories about how Democrats had forever altered the political map. So the White House is pouring resources into what Tim Kaine, the state's former Democratic governor, now pridefully refers to as Democrats' "New Dominion." The Obama campaign has held some 1,600 events in the state in the last half-year alone. Only last month Mr. Obama hopped a three-day bus trip through Virginia and North Carolina. Obama officials keep flocking to the state, and Tuesday's election was to offer the first indication of how these efforts are succeeding. Let's just say the New Dominion is looking an awful lot like the Old Dominion. If anything, more so. Enlarge Image Close Getty Images Democrats were trounced in Tuesday's state legislature election, despite the president's heavy investment of time in the state. Virginia Republicans added seven new seats to their majority in the House of Delegates, giving them two-thirds of that chamber's votes—the party's largest margin in history. The GOP also took over the Virginia Senate in results that were especially notable, given that Virginia Democrats this spring crafted an aggressive redistricting plan that had only one aim: providing a firewall against a Republican takeover of that chamber. Even that extreme gerrymander didn't work. Every Republican incumbent—52 in the House, 15 in the Senate—won. The state GOP is looking at unified control over government for only the second time since the Civil War. This is after winning all three top statewide offices—including the election of Gov. Bob McDonnell—in 2009, and picking off three U.S. House Democrats in last year's midterms. Topline figures aside, what ought to really concern the White House was the nature of the campaign, and the breakout of Tuesday's election data. Mr. Obama may have big plans for Virginia, but the question is increasingly: him and what army? Elected state Democrats—who form the backbone of grass-roots movements—couldn't distance themselves far enough from Mr. Obama in this race. Most refused to mention the president, to defend his policies, or to appear with him. The more Republicans sought to nationalize the Virginia campaign, the more Democrats stressed local issues. State House Minority Leader Ward Armstrong felt compelled to run an ad protesting that it was a "stretch" for his GOP opponent to "compare me to Barack Obama." After all, he was "pro-life, pro-gun and I always put Virginia first." (Mr. Armstrong lost on Tuesday.) Virginia Democrats were happy to identify with one top official: Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell, who is providing a lesson in the benefits of smart GOP governance in battleground states. Criticized as being too socially conservative for Virginia when he was elected in 2009, Mr. McDonnell has won over voters by focusing on the economy and jobs. His approval ratings are in the 60s, and he helped raise some $5 million for local candidates. He's popular enough that Democrats took to including pictures of him in their campaign literature, and bragging that they'd worked with him. Mr. McDonnell has been particularly adept at connecting with the independent, white-collar voters Mr. Obama used to win Virginia in 2008. That crowd lives in North Virginia's booming exurb counties of Prince William and Loudoun, and presidential races hinge on their votes. Mr. Obama's 2008 victory in Virginia rested on his significant wins in both Loudoun (8%) and Prince Williams (16%). Yet Tuesday's results showed the extent to which that support has reversed. Loudoun in particular proved an unmitigated rout for Democrats. Republicans won or held three of four of the county's Senate seats. It swept all seven of the county's House seats. It won all nine slots on the county's Board of Supervisors, and pretty much every other county office. In Prince William, the story was much the same. This is what happens when a recent Quinnipiac poll shows Mr. Obama's approval rating among Virginia independents at 29%. Democrats are now arguing that turnout (about 30%) was too low to prove anything, but then again, the particularly low Democratic turnout suggests that, on top of everything else, the White House really does face an enthusiasm gap. It's still got time to try to remedy that problem, and some other Virginia fundamentals. But going by Tuesday's results, Mr. Plouffe might need to start considering Electoral Plan C.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (117442)	11/11/2011 11:10:29 AM
From: lorne	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224756

ken ..Sounds somewhat like what the moslums rant about the Jews? Grammy Nominee’s Violent 'Occupy' Anthem: ‘Strung Up You’ll Bleed,’ 'Your Blood Is Our Paint' By Dan Gainor November 10, 2011 cnsnews.com Despite the violence of the anti-war protests, the ‘60s demonstrations were about giving peace a chance. The Occupy Wall Street crowd has a new anthem that is anything but peaceful. The song tells how opponents will have their “body destroyed” or when “strung up you’ll bleed, like the pig you became." The song “We Stand as One” was recorded by Joseph Arthur, who has collaborated with rock greats like Peter Gabriel and REM’s Michael Stipe. Arthur was nominated for a best recording package Grammy for his 1999 EP “Vacancy,” according to his bio. Arthur has “previously been recorded a decade earlier by Gabriel for a Princess Diana tribute album.” The song is an entire rationale of why “we Occupy Wall Street.” Included as explanations are to: •Take back our soul, •Take back our country, •Take back control, •Take back our health care, •Take back our mind, •Take back our freedom. But, this anthem is also filled with violent imagery threatening the opponents of the movement. •“Your blood is our paint,” •“Like a pig you consumed And like a pig you will roast,” •“Burning your homes.” •“Your body destroyed” •“Strung up you’ll bleed Like the pig you became” Not exactly Dylan's "Blowin' In The Wind," now, is it?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (117442)	11/11/2011 1:01:18 PM
From: lorne	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224756

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (117442)	11/13/2011 12:14:54 PM
From: lorne	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224756

Poll: Americans Prefer Netanyahu to Obama New poll finds that Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israel are more popular among Americans than their own president. By Elad Benari 11/11/2011 israelnationalnews.com Flash 90Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is enjoying more popularity in the United States than President Barack Obama, a new poll indicates. The results of the poll, which was conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, were published on Thursday by Israel’s Channel 10 News. It involved 800 U.S. citizens who were asked to answer several questions related to Israel, the United States and the Palestinian Authority. Netanyahu received an average score of 52.3 in the poll, compared to only 51.5 which Obama received. PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas scored 26.8 while his rival Hamas received an average score of 19.5. The Lebanon-based Hizbullah terror group received an average score of 20.1. Most of the respondents – 60% – said they believe Netanyahu is making efforts to achieve a peace agreement with the PA. Of these, 11% said that the Prime Minister is making enormous efforts to achieve peace. Conversely, 52% of respondents thought that Abbas does not aspire to reach peace with Israel through negotiations. Of these, 15% said that Abbas has been making no attempt to negotiate with Israel and 39% said that Abbas is making efforts to reach a peace agreement. The poll also found that Israel’s popularity has increased among Americans and is at its highest since 2007. The main factor which led to the increase in support for Israel was Abbas’ unilateral statehood bid at the United Nations in September. A majority of respondents, 60%, expressed warm feelings toward the Jewish state, while only 15% said they had cool feelings towards Israel. The sympathy towards Israel increased more among supporters of Obama’s Democratic party. When asked if the United States should continue to support Israel or whether it should support the PA, 48% of respondents said that Israel should be supported, while only 13% said that the PA should be supported. There was a slight drop in support for Israel among Republican supporters, despite the fact that the Republican party is generally considered to be friendlier to Israel. There was still a majority even among Republicans, however, with 77% supporting Israel, down from 81% in a poll conducted last July. The poll was published just several days after it was revealed that in a recent open microphone incident, Obama appeared to show frustration with Netanyahu. In a recent conversation between Obama and French President Nikolas Sarkozy, the latter said about Netanyahu, “I cannot stand him. He is a liar.” Obama reportedly replied, “You’re fed up with him, but I have to deal with him every day!” The White House has been trying to stifle diplomatic fallout from the incident. On Wednesday, a top White House official insisted Obama had a good relationship with the Israeli prime minister. The Obama-Sarkozy incident was met with criticism from some members of the Republican party, who have long been critical of the president’s policy towards Israel. GOP nomination contender Mitt Romney said on Wednesday that Obama had proven his disdain for the ‘special relationship’ between Israel and the United States. “President Obama’s derisive remarks about Israel’s prime minister confirm what any observer would have gleaned from his public statements and actions toward our longstanding ally, Israel,” Romney said. “At a moment when the Jewish state is isolated and under threat, we cannot have an American president who is disdainful of our special relationship with Israel. We have here yet another reason why we need new leadership in the White House.” Republican Senator John McCain, who ran against Obama in 2008, was also highly critical of the exchange between the two leaders, saying Obama's remarks reflected his administration's attitude towards Israel.