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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (22544)	11/16/2011 10:31:53 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

The MRI I had was diagnostic in nature and determined the problem and then the doctor determined that surgery was advisable. Eureka! How long did we spend discussing your MRI? How many times did you insist that your MRI was demonstrably necessary simply because the doctor wouldn't operate without one? How many times did I point out that that was insufficient to determine necessity and continue to probe and hint and challenge to try to get you to produce something more sufficient? And how many times did you fuss at me for trying to read the doctor's mind rather than recognizing that I was trying to grease the process of your coming up with something, anything, that evidenced a thought process in support of your position? I figured that the above might be the case. You could have reported that a hundred posts ago. Were I you, I would have offered that immediately when challenged on the inherent insufficiency of an authority's rule. It's the obvious counter. It doesn't strongly support necessity without more detail but it is at least responsive to the diagnosis/surgery problem. Which is why, as I told you, I pursued the discussion to try to figure out what goes on in your head to make rationales so difficult to come by, why they seem to be so alien to you, why "because" does not seem to be in your vocabulary. For the record, some definitions. Diagnosis: The act or process of identifying or determining the nature and cause of a disease or injury through evaluation of patient history, examination, and review of laboratory data. Treatment: Administration or application of remedies to a patient or for a disease or injury; medicinal or surgical management; therapy. Argument: [two meanings of the word--1. quarrel vs 2. argumentation] 1. a. A discussion in which disagreement is expressed; a debate. b. A quarrel; a dispute. 2. a. A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating truth or falsehood: presented a careful argument for extraterrestrial life. b. A fact or statement put forth as proof or evidence; a reason: The current low mortgage rates are an argument for buying a house now. c. A set of statements in which one follows logically as a conclusion from the others. [Definitions from the Free Dictionary] The dialectical method is dialogue between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject, who wish to establish the truth of the matter by dialogue, with reasoned arguments. [1] Dialectics is different from debate, wherein the debaters are committed to their points of view, and mean to win the debate, either by persuading the opponent, proving their argument correct, or proving the opponent's argument incorrect — thus, either a judge or a jury must decide who wins the debate. en.wikipedia.org