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To: Win Smith who wrote (176843)11/29/2011 3:18:55 PM
From: Sam  Respond to of 542201
 
I think they still want it, they just don't want to talk about it because nobody outside of the hard core thinks it's a good idea. Ryan will rise again, just not during the campaign.

Yes, it is not unlike Bush's "privatize Social Security" ploy in '05--not a peep about it in the campaign, then he went around trying to push it as soon as his second term started. And, of course, the lovely Iraq war. If they do gain control of all three branches, you know that they will start pushing Ryan's Plan ASAP.

Here is a piece from another movement conservative who is trying trying trying to find Anyone-But-Romney: "Mitt Romney is, in fact, a great big nothing — malleable into any shape you want, a void into which you can place any policy position." He's got that right. This piece is pretty obvious, but very representative.

‘The Most Volatile Republican Race in Decades’ Is Actually Well Settled
from RedState by Erick Erickson (Diary)

“The race for the GOP nomination is well settled at this point. It is settled in ‘Not Romney’s’ favor. The reason the race is so volatile is that ‘Not Romney’ is not on the ballot”
I keep hearing from the Washington Chattering Classes, Team Romney, and the White House that the race is over and Romney’s the nominee. To be fair, I think Romney will, at present, be the nominee. But as I’m starting to see stronger signs that he is not going to be the nominee, the White House, Team Romney, etc. are building more expectations that he will be the nominee.

But occasionally we hear views from those living in reality. On Wolf Blitzer’s show yesterday, Gloria Borger, Mary Matalin, and Joe Johns were in agreement with reality — this is the most volatile Republican race in decades.

The only thing constant in the race has been Mitt Romney stuck in second place. Everyone else has bounced up above him, fallen back, and seen another bounce above him.

For normal people in fly over country that is a troubling sign. For folks in Washington, many of whom on the Republican side have a financial interest in MItt Romney being the nominee because of a potential appointment, consulting contract, etc., it is just the precursor to settling for Romney.

Notwithstanding the beltway conventional wisdom, however, I am beginning to see the beginning of the end of Romney as the viable nominee and, more importantly, for people wondering why the Republican primary seems so volatile this year the answer is staring at everyone in the Real Clear Politics polling average.

The race is so volatile because seventy-five percent of the Republican base does not want Mitt Romney as the nominee.

Consider that most people did not start paying attention to the race until the end of summer, around Labor Day. Now look at the RCP polling average since that point.



Romney has been in the lead three times: before Perry’s rise, between the Perry fall and Cain rise, and between the Cain fall and Gingrich rise. That’s it. Each time, the non-Romney candidate gets ahead of him.

But what’s more, consider how Romney has never, since November 3, 2010, gotten more than 25.5% of the polling average. And he only recently broke above 25.0% of the polling average only to fall back down to 21.3% within weeks.

The race is so volatile because the race is well settled as we get 38 days from Iowa. The race is settled against Mitt Romney. The question, however, is who the alternative is going to be. And if one does not hold up, it will fall to Mitt Romney.

This may cheer Romney’s supporters, and it is likely, but I fear there will be sever damage to the GOP down ballot with a Romney nomination. If voters are not excited about their guy — and 75% of them are not excited by Mitt Romney — that lack of excitement will trickle down ballot limiting any coat tails.

The Washington GOP establishment may have fallen for Mitt Romney, but they are both foolish and naive to think they can beat something with nothing. Mitt Romney is, in fact, a great big nothing — malleable into any shape you want, a void into which you can place any policy position. That’s a problem nationally, but it is also a problem down ballot with coat tails.

The race for the GOP nomination is well settled at this point. It is settled in ‘Not Romney’s’ favor. The reason the race is so volatile is that “Not Romney” is not on the ballot making a Romney nomination not just possible, but probable.



To: Win Smith who wrote (176843)11/29/2011 9:45:51 PM
From: Sam  Respond to of 542201
 
Now, this is a swell idea. Throw the deadbeats into prison! They will get a roof over their head, 3 squares a day, good exercise, and probably get some job training in dealing drugs, theft, extortion and other kinds of employment that won't be exported to developing nations. What more could people who can't pay their debts want?! Not only that, but they will have to build new prisons since the ones we have are so overcrowded--that will create some jobs. And more jobs will be created when the prisons are built! This is a stroke of genius! Worthy of Newt even! Maybe he could get those middle and high school who can't be employed as janitors in their school jobs in these debtor prisons. Everyone wins here!

THE RETURN OF DEBTORS PRISONS: Collection Agencies Now Want Deadbeats Arrested
By Henry Blodget | Daily Ticker – Tue, Nov 22, 2011 12:24 PM EST

finance.yahoo.com

video and text at the link

[shades of johnny swift....]



To: Win Smith who wrote (176843)11/30/2011 12:53:19 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542201
 
This is absolutely vintage hilarious Maureen Dowd. Well, hilarious if it wasn't so true and Gingrich wasn't a plausible winner of the Republican nomination. Skewering Gingrich, it is a good follow-up to the more scholarly Bruce Bartlett piece I posted yesterday. Newt's behavior has been so outlandish over the years that if someone wove a novel around it, the novel would be trashed as utterly implausible. I wonder what her Republican brother says about columns like this one.

My Man Newt
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: November 29, 2011

In many ways, Newt is the perfect man.

He knows how to buy good jewelry. He puts his wife ahead of his campaign. He’s so in touch with his feelings that he would rather close the entire federal government than keep his emotions bottled up. He’s confident enough to include a steamy sex scene in a novel. He understands that Paul Revere was warning about the British.

Mitt Romney is a phony with gobs of hair gel. Newt Gingrich is a phony with gobs of historical grandiosity.

The 68-year-old has compared himself to Charles de Gaulle. He has noted nonchalantly: “People like me are what stand between us and Auschwitz.” As speaker, he liked to tell reporters he was a World Historical Transformational Figure.

What does it say about the cuckoo G.O.P. primary that Gingrich is the hot new thing? Still, his moment is now. And therein lies the rub.

As one commentator astutely noted, Gingrich is a historian and a futurist who can’t seem to handle the present. He has more exploding cigars in his pocket than the president with whom he had the volatile bromance: Bill Clinton.

But next to Romney, Gingrich seems authentic. Next to Herman Cain, Gingrich seems faithful. Next to Jon Huntsman, Gingrich seems conservative. Next to Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, Gingrich actually does look like an intellectual. Unlike the governor of Texas, he surely knows the voting age. To paraphrase Raymond Chandler, if brains were elastic, Perry wouldn’t have enough to make suspenders for a parakeet.

In presidential campaigns, it’s all relative.

Franker than ever as he announced plans to retire from Congress, Barney Frank told Abby Goodnough in The Times that Gingrich was “the single biggest factor” in destroying a Washington culture where the two parties respected each other’s differing views yet still worked together.

Newt is the progenitor of the modern politics of personal destruction.

“He got to Congress in ’78 and said, ‘We the Republicans are not going to be able to take over unless we demonize the Democrats,’ ” Frank said.

In the fiction he writes with William R. Forstchen, Gingrich specializes in alternative histories. What if America hadn’t gone to war with Germany in World War II? What if Gen. Robert E. Lee had won Gettysburg?

The Republican also weaves an alternative history of his own life, where he is saving civilization rather than ripping up the fabric of Congress, where he improves the moral climate of America rather than pollutes it.

Romney is a mundane opportunist who reverses himself on core issues. Gingrich is a megalomaniacal opportunist who brazenly indulges in the same sins that he rails about to tear down political rivals.

Republicans have a far greater talent for hypocrisy than easily cowed Democrats do — and no doubt appreciate that in a leader.

Gingrich led the putsch against Democratic Speaker Jim Wright in 1988, bludgeoning him for an ethically sketchy book deal. The following year, as he moved into the House Republican leadership, he himself got in trouble for an ethically sketchy book deal.

Gingrich was part of the House Republican mob trying to impeach Bill Clinton for hiding his affair with a young government staffer, even as Newt himself was hiding his affair with a young government staffer.

Gingrich has excoriated Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae for dragging the country into a financial spiral and now demands that Freddie Mac be broken up. But it turns out that he was on contract with Freddie for six years and paid $1.6 million to $1.8 million (yacht trips and Tiffany’s bling for everyone!) to help the company strategize about how to soften up critical conservatives and stay alive.

At a Republican debate in New Hampshire last month before this lucrative deal became public, Gingrich suggested that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should be put in jail. “All I’m saying is, everybody in the media who wants to go after the business community ought to start by going after the politicians who were at the heart of the sickness that is weakening this country,” he said.

Another transcendent moment in Gingrich hypocrisy. He risibly rationalized his deal, saying he was giving the mortgage company advice as a prestigious historian rather than a hired gun.

Gingrich boasts that he’s full of fresh ideas, but it always seems to essentially be the same old one: Let’s turn the clock back to the ’50s. Just as Newt, who dodged service in Vietnam, once cast the Clintons as hippie “McGovernicks,” now he limns the Occupy Wall Street protesters as hippies who need to take a bath and get a job.

Maybe the ideal man to fix Washington’s dysfunction is the one who made it dysfunctional. He broke it so he should own it. And Newt has the best reason to long for the presidency: He’d never be banished to the back of Air Force One again.