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To: TH who wrote (53297)	12/11/2011 6:52:36 PM
From: Broken_Clock	13 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 119362

bentway, tejek and others show just how close the D and R parties really are. When it comes to fascism, especially the violent sort, they love it. Now that "their Man" is in charge, let's embrace everything Bush did.

To: TH who wrote (53297)	12/11/2011 6:53:55 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 119362

I agree the power to do such things can be abused. If a power can be abused, it will at some point in the future be abused. In this case, I think it was properly used. If Bush had done it, I'd have felt the same. Perhaps stripping Al-Awaki of his American citizenship BEFORE we killed him would have been more proper. But by then, perhaps the opportunity would have passed, and he might have increased his own security had that happened. I'm glad he's dead. At my core, I'm an opportunistic pragmatist, not an idealist. It's why I still support Obama, despite bitter disappointments. I don't see anyone better likely to become president.

To: TH who wrote (53297)	12/11/2011 7:06:33 PM
From: Joseph Silent	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 119362

I don't know anything about this guy and also about a lot that has been going on in this area, but I'd just like to make a comment that may help. What people do at any given time depends on what mental framework is in operation at that time. Many of us may be familiar with the surprise we have when we find that, while we are at peace, doing something enjoyable and creative and productive, a colleague or spouse surprises us by being at war. With us. These are two conflicting systems at work. At that moment, neither is operating in a framework in which the other can be judged, even though there is a great temptation to judge. If the above idea is unconvincing, think a bit about the people (usually kids) that we send off to fight wars. Even before we send them off to kill people, we do a lot to PUT THEM IN a certain mental framework. When they operate in this framework, all kinds of things they would consider illegal in their normal mental framework suddenly becomes possible. You hear stories of soldiers doing all kinds of things, even to poor people who are not soldiers. Why? The context has gone haywire. This is why judging someone in peacetime for actions they do in war is a bizarre thing. On the one hand it seems the right thing to do. On the other hand it does not make sense. The person operating is not the same person in the two circumstances. Now, after considering all that, recognize that most people are not conscious of what they are doing at any given time. Usually it is the auto-pilot in control. And of all these people, some are at war, and some are at peace. These sets are always in flux. It is hard to tell which is which until the shock encounters occur.