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Pastimes : Plastics to Oil - Pyrolysis and Secret Catalysts and Alterna -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: donpat who wrote (15140)	12/12/2011 12:51:51 PM
From: PaperProphet	Respond to of 53574

Re:<"If not marketable they are simply converting plastic garbage into a toxic liquid garbage which certainly can't be disposed of in a landfill."> ...or at least no better than anyone else's pyrolysis oil. Personally I believe it's very possible to create a useful fuel if using hydrocarbon-only plastics since that would mean the output would be almost exclusively alkanes and alkenes--and that would have little to do with the actual catalyst used. However even the dirty scrap prices are $700/ton (about a third the price of virgin), effectively negating any potential profits even if the output is pure diesel. Now if Mr. Bordynuik circumvented this and actually can get free hydrocarbon-only plastic then why can't anyone else get that plastic for free? Does RockTenn really have almost pure LDPE that they're willing to landfill rather than recycle?? Remember that plastic is generated because they're recycling. Raggertail?? Now I can see why that would be landfilled by RockTenn. But that's only about 25% plastic and even more cardboard. If that's pyrolyzed then the cardboard will break down too. If that works then why not just use municipal solid waste?? John Rivera of SSTP put out a press release about using MSW and, just like all of his press releases, that was well received by investors who trusted him until the end.