To: elmatador who wrote (84625 ) 12/15/2011 12:54:04 PM From: Maurice Winn 2 Recommendations Respond to of 217862 How do you think the British felt when they canceled the British Empire and pulled up the drawbridge. <"taking hold of the thread whip graciously ceded by the august Elmatador" God! I am happy I have not to deal with the lot anymore!! > The British then made the mistake of signing up with the kleptocratic suffocatocracy of Bruxelles as Euroserfs, but are having second thoughts on that too. Virtuous Victorian Values are not for just anybody. It takes sustained relentless effort to maintain standards with swarms of people, who are basically chimps who for the most part walk on two legs, without knuckles. As shown by riots in jolly England last summer, if they are not imbued with VVV from an early age and kept on the straight and narrow, they relapse to type. The problem is the bosses all too often are the chimps. We are now finding out what happens when chimps get hold of the levers of power of governments and fiat currencies. Germany is trying to hold the line and maintain solid money. But they are a day late, a dollar short and deep in socialism and greenism. When East Germany rejoined West Germany, it was seen as a takeover, but it seemed to me that what would happen is that East Germany would actually take over West Germany because the East Germans, being used to Big Brother and communism, would vote for left wing politics, adding to the power of those doing so in the West. Sure enough. "We vote that you give us your money" won the day as it is doing nearly everywhere in democracies. Nobody is voting for true freedom and Tradable Citizenship. People like being bossed, told what to do and belonging to a tribe. The lonely path is taken by very few. Mqurice