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To: average joe who wrote (84873)	12/21/2011 7:08:15 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 218090

re: RIM boys... Sounds like they both had blackouts... Interesting things can happen to usually normal folks under those conditions... and appearing not to be intoxicated is one... at least for a time.. These blackouts are characterized also by the ability to easily recall things that have occurred within the last 2 minutes, yet inability to recall anything prior to this period. As such, a person experiencing an en bloc blackout may not appear to be doing so, as they can carry on conversations or even manage to accomplish difficult feats. en.wikipedia.org re: RIM... Message 27836964 :o)

To: average joe who wrote (84873)	12/22/2011 2:53:13 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218090

What happened with RIM execs and how they can defend themselves. Repressed people not used to freedom, released all pressure at once. Travelling to China was opportunity to release pressure. Already dreaming of foot massage, Tsingtao beers and being feted by Chinese partners who usually likes people to feel welcome. Had a few beers at the airport and stopped counting. When they usually drink, they call cab, go straight home and sleep. This time they were a bit high and had a very long flight ahead of them thus adrenalin continued to run. Perfect storm... Once the newbies (they had never waited a whole day for a plane in a hot domestic airport in Africa which the only thing we can do to pass the time waiting is to drinking lots of beer) were drunk inside dry and low pressure cabin, alcohol effects were much stronger and the guys did not know it. travelingsmart.com Much more than the usual well behaved nice boys were used to handle. This comes handy for their defense. Their defense must be: We never had drunk too much. Felt a bit excited with the trip and drunk a few more than usual. But we had never had problems since we knew how to handle it. We did not know cabin is much tougher fro drunk people.