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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: gg cox who wrote (22692)12/29/2011 10:57:48 AM
From: John Koligman  Respond to of 42652
 
"Roadwalker also complained because of being self employed at the time and moving between states and having to change health care providers i believe Road Walker was self employed."

That is why I initially started posting on this thread, as a self employed trader some years ago. I faced lack of choice in buying insurance, and if I or my wife were sick - forget it...

Regards,
John

PS - I agree with you on the elderly, having to face something like the Ryan plan with a voucher and beholden to private firms is not something to look forward to during your elderly years....



To: gg cox who wrote (22692)12/29/2011 11:29:54 AM
From: TimF  Respond to of 42652
 
and that is exactly what they had with good jobs that paid their health care premiums

No. If you have a good job that pays health care premiums, those payments are part of the compensation for your labor, not a free lunch.

All the present payers are obviously not paying enough

What exactly do you mean by that?



To: gg cox who wrote (22692)12/29/2011 11:31:08 AM
From: Lane313 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 42652
 
Can you imagine what I node's health care premiums would be at age 85 ,,, without medicare??

You continue to try to remove medicare from the equation while leaving everything else intact. But, had there been no medicare, everything else would not have stayed the same. It's like you're saying that, if the car had not been invented, the length of the commute from the suburbs would be prohibitive so no one could live there. This fails to consider that, had the car not be invented, there would be no suburbs. Everyone working downtown would be living in the city. The same is true of medicare. Had it never existed, most people would have been able to afford health care because health care costs would not have become so inflated.