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To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (20283)	1/2/2012 8:10:55 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24758

Maybe you are not that far apart. Wealth does not cease when we stop working but it does have a half life. Maybe the difference is you think that half life is longer than Ahahha does?

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (20283)	1/2/2012 9:38:43 PM
From: ahhaha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24758

your response has no relation to what I wrote. Are you sure? by your definition "wealth" is a fleeting thing that stops once the work has stopped. That was your definition. In physics, we're only interested in the action principle. We aren't interested in what anything actually is. That is because what anything actually is can't be described. That may work in ahhahaland, but it has no relevance outside of your enclave. Outside "my enclave" you'll find the darkling plane. In spite of your desire to redefine words, wealth is precisely the store of value resulting from "work" and it can be reflected in "things". Marx referred to this as "material alienation", and the Existentialist philosophers picked up on it to show that pursuit of that notion of wealth ends up in slavery. I'm sure you're familiar with it. I'm sure you've observed when one of your neighbors opens their garage door, you see this mass of "wealth" piled to the ceiling that they say one day they'll surely use.... Bringing in Icahn, envy, OWS, Marx and Utopianism doesn't help in the understanding of the concept. The four are intimately connected across the bridge of alienation. By your definition, a slave is wealthy because he has a job that he is doing each day. You don't know what wealth is. It isn't what you tink, but its definition is seen in the action of Ican. If you want to argue that the definition of wealth isn't the store of value, great for you!!!! You can't make money brooding over it. But again, it has no meaning outside of your cloistered little world. I'll bet I have more money than you do.

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (20283)	1/3/2012 1:37:15 PM
From: frankw1900	Respond to of 24758

you really so make this shit up out of thin air, don't you? your response has no relation to what I wrote. by your definition "wealth" is a fleeting thing that stops once the work has stopped. Didn't he say 'your wealth is your job'? What you can do, your capability That may work in ahhahaland, but it has no relevance outside of your enclave. In spite of your desire to redefine words, wealth is precisely the store of value resulting from "work" and it can be reflected in "things". Bringing in Icahn, envy, OWS, Marx and Utopianism doesn't help in the understanding of the concept.. You are talking about money which in itself is utterly abstract, (a number and a name, and an infinite number of promises), which is its great advantage. We create money because it makes it easier to exchange stuff and services but money is utterly fungible and may be debased and stolen in a great variety of ways. When the money is gone, it's gone. When the house and the land and the other stuff is destroyed or taken, family and friends killed or dispersed, all there is to fall back on is your true wealth which is yourself and thus what you do - your capability. By your definition, a slave is wealthy because he has a job that he is doing each day. . The slave is not free. Slave's wealth - his work, his capability - is stolen by the slave holder thus slave has no wealth. This is partly what your Civil War was about. Slaves have no wealth and thus are not a market. If you want to argue that the definition of wealth isn't the store of value, great for you!!!! But again, it has no meaning outside of your cloistered little world. Hey, if a good description lets me see better how things really are then I have an advantage, in any world.