To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (20310 ) 1/3/2012 1:20:38 PM From: dvdw© Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24758 neither scenario guarantees any probability of a subjects survival...over the other...effective story tellers innovate by adding value to the knowledge of the listener, while guns bullets gold will always be looted.......provide cause for envy and fear, in Franks case, i'd bet his survival probability with his stories.is as good or better....over his probable survival skills with the items provided Neither guarantees anything, but I'd certainly rather be dropped into the middle of a jungle with more than the professional and general knowledge that I have gained from living in the U.S. As far as Frank's case, in what language do you think he will be telling his stories? Frank has bandwidth for story telling, a talent respected by isolated tribal groups, me thinks he would adapt listen, proceed as student and become story teller...hell he may never come out of this hypothetical experience by his own free will, deciding twas better to tell stories by knocking on wood then wasting his breath. You, fear struck by the bones of painted shamans and gutteral sounding treedmen around you, may just resort to the weapon at your side, or throw them a teeshirt or offer a ticket out on your boat... lots of choice, better make the right one, cause nightfall in the jungle brings armies that will make a meal of you without a care about any of your life saving loot. And yet, experience over the last decades suggests that is exactly what they did, handed over titles, to others who multiplied the title into products that were sold to others, in many cases no clear title is available today....because the contract between buyer seller lender has been extrapolated beyond the loans originator into the no mans land of derivative finance.. do you think that the banks did this of their own volition without external influence (force)? And do you think that they did it based on the capabilities and promise of the home buyer? The capability to ignore or use a the first party relationship irresponsibly, conditions about relationships remain decisions about choices...the extrapolation process potentially diminished the banks honor, as it fooled its customer, into believing the transaction was meritorious. The customer may also have fooled the bank and each might have fooled the other. These choices are now in hindsight, grist for philosophy, and awareness for anyone within earshot that what you see, is often, not what you get....teaching lessons about systems for individuals.Training for institutions about how to plant seeds which grow into failure, catastrophically. end of my input....happy new year to you and yours.