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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (19204)	1/4/2012 3:05:50 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

Evolution is a fact that is constantly passing every Scientific Method test thrown at it. I hate to tell you that, but it isn't true. You can't test something that takes vast lengths of time to happen. Natural selection, which is sometimes meant when the word evolution is used, rests on argument and reasoning from the controlled breeding humans have been doing for thousands of years.

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (19204)	1/5/2012 10:01:45 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

"Its befuddling to me" You're too easily befuddled. I know atheists aren't comfortable defending and discussing their views. For the most part they're simply looking for a stage to posture their monologue. Not surprisingly the point went right over your head. Science is fairly good at describing what is, but cannot prescribe what should be. It's par for the course that you would ignore that, in favor of a rant about your closed minded view of reality.

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (19204)	1/5/2012 10:18:46 PM
From: Solon	1 Recommendation Respond to of 69300

"Evolution is a fact that is constantly passing every Scientific Method test thrown at it. Nevertheless, there are always scores of new wonderful unanswered questions to answer about when and where things took place, but not about the reality of Darwin's paradigmatic discovery." 100% correct. Nevertheless, even though it is 100% certain that religions are all human inventions (they all carry the evidence for their origin in their dogma and their stories)--it CANNOT likewise be stated with absolute certainty that no superior species to homo sapiens exists somewhere in the universe. Not decidedly INFERIOR as are the gods we have invented! But creatures decidedly SUPERIOR!

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (19204)	1/5/2012 10:29:55 PM
From: Greg or e	2 Recommendations Respond to of 69300

Minds Are Part of Reality Stephen Meyer on whether or not it can be valid to infer a mind as an explanation of causation, from a recent dialogue on Unbelievable: Making reference to the activity of mind can be explanatory because we know that minds have causal powers. They can do things. And there are specific kinds of things that minds do that we can pick out and recognize from their effects. And information is one of the things that invariably leads us back to the activity of mind. So when we see information in the cell, we can justifiably infer that a mind acted…. We don't think of the action of an agent—whether it be God or someone else—as violating the laws of nature. The laws of nature tell you what ordinarily happens…, provided there's no interference. If an agent acts, if I lift up the book off the table, I'm not violating the law of gravity, I'm initiating…a new line of causation within the matrix of natural law. If you look at the words on the printed page there in front of you…and you say, "Well, what caused those words to originate?" if we only talk about the chemistry and physics of the ink on the paper, we're missing an important aspect of the cause that produced those words…. We want to open people's minds to the whole of reality. The activity of mind acting on nature is part of reality, and the narrow definition of science that says that it's only a scientific explanation if you refer to a materialistic, or naturalistic, or physical cause, is missing an important aspect of reality. And intelligent design is saying mind is real, minds have causal powers, and we can detect the activity of mind…. We're simply inferring the cause that is known from our experience to produce the effect in question, rather than causes that are not known from our experience to produce the effect in question. Listen to the rest of the dialogue on Unbelievable. And here are some thoughts on whether or not a mind can move physical matter.