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To: Jane Hafker who wrote (1244)11/22/1997 7:34:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Respond to of 2110
 
><>... Hi Jane, and yes I will be in prayer as you have asked...><>

As to your post concerning the Jewish people. I hope this helps
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The first time the word Jews is mentioned in scripture is in 2 Kings 16:6

2 Kings 1-6
In the 17th year Pekah,the son of Remaliah, Ahaz, the son of Jotham, king of Judah began to reign anmd reigned 16 yrs. in Jerusalem......Then Resin, King of Syria,and Pekah, son of Remaliah,King of Israel, came up to Jerusalem to war, and the beseiged Ahaz (King of Judah), but could not overcome him. At that time Resin, King of Syria, recovered Elath to Syria and drave the Jews from Elath....

V.7...So Ahaz sent messengers to Tiglathpileser, King of Assyria, saying, I am thy servant and son, come up and save me out of the hand of the king of Syria, AND out of the hand of the King of Israel,which rise up against me.

It is clearly stated that in this war the beseiging party is Pekah, the King of Israel, and the beseiged party was Ahaz the King of Judah, the head of the Jews whose head is Jerusalem, the head of the house of David.

If the Jews were beseiged and Israel was one of the beseigers then how is it possible that the Jews and Israel are one and the same people?

Consider Jer.13:11
11 For as the girdle cleaveth to the loins of a man, so have I caused to cleave unto me the whole house of Israel and the whole house of Judah, saith the LORD; that they might be unto me for a people, and for a name, and for a praise, and for a glory: but
they would not hear.
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We can understand from this scripture that the whole house of Judah does not by itself make up all of the Lord's people and that the whole house of Israel does not of itself make up all of the Lord's people, But that it takes the whole house of Judah and
the whole house of Israel combined to make all of His chosen people.

It also shows that "the whole house of Israel" of which "the whole house of Judah" is regarded as neither part nor parcel. It is true of course that they are brethren, because they all are the seed of Jacob/Israel.

As such they are "Jacobites," OR since Jacobs's name was changed to Israel his descendants may be called Israelites. But it is a fact that the seed of Jacob had been divided by the will, direct intervention and the decree of God,into Two Kingdoms.

"The whole house of Israel", "the children of Israel" "The house of Israe;," All Israel,And "Israel"..

While the other nation is called "the whole house of Judah", "the house of Judah","the children of Judah" "all Judah", and "Judah" OR "the Jews".

The name Jew is derived from the name of Judah (son of Jacob), Hence the name Jew and Jews are applied ONLY to the people who composed the Kingdom of Judah and "all Judah" and which finally bacame known as "Judea" and "Jewry", "all Judea" and All Jewry.

Jew and Israel are not interchangable.!To remember this is very helpful.!

EX. Moses was of the house of Levi a descendant of the son of Levi, He was not of the house of Judah,not a descendant of the son of Judah.

In short Jane Jew is applicable only to those born of Jacobs son Judah...Or... are form the land of Judah

...In the Hebrew:3064 Yehuwdiy (yeh-hoo-dee');
patronymically from 3063; a Jehudite (i.e. Judaite or Jew), or descendant of Jehudah (i.e. Judah):

In the greek:
2453 Ioudaios (ee-oo-dah'-yos);

from 2448 (in the sense of 2455 as a country); Judaean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah:
KJV-- Jew (-ess), of Judaea.

Also consider the words of Jesus:

Rev 2:9
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

And Again
Rev 3:9
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

So you were right when you say that Noah was not a Jew...He could not have been a Jew....For Judah the son of Jacob/Israel was not yet born.

Abraham was not a Jew either...Abraham was referred to a Hebrew which is #
5680 'Ibriy (ib-ree');
patronymic from 5677; an Eberite (i.e. Hebrew) or descendant of Eber:
Or more precisely Eber taken from Abar,to pass on= he who passed over from beyond, i.e. beyond the Euphrates Joshus 24:2
Nor was Isaac or Jacob a Jew. Jacob/Israel sons made up the 12 tribes of Israel/Jacob, out of which was also born, his son Judah....and all the descendants of Judah only are known as Jews.

God bless you my good friend, and talk to you later
Shalom...><>