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To: unclewest who wrote (464829)	1/12/2012 10:01:23 PM
From: TechKim	Respond to of 793671

Massachusetts is the third wealthiest state. The taxes might have got raised, but then how much more are the wealthiest really paying? I agree in part, but then we are also talking about federal taxes that have many avenues to cut the fat verses limited state tax structures. I believe we must center on Federal taxes and not be mislead about an individual state. If we want a business climate type President. You can bet that anything will go to really balance the books.

To: unclewest who wrote (464829)	1/12/2012 10:21:54 PM
From: Peter van Steennis	24 Recommendations Respond to of 793671

Any Birthers still around? It doesn't matter how much proof there is to discredit the birth certificate, it will not gain traction with the media. Very Interesting Bit Of Detective Work 1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time? 2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya, East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". 3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978? Resources: kapiolani.org Post-colonial history (from Wikipedia)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya en.wikipedia.org

To: unclewest who wrote (464829)	1/12/2012 11:08:44 PM
From: Neeka	2 Recommendations Respond to of 793671

I'd like to see that on a spreadsheet. I would too! With Mitt Romney, all bets are off.

To: unclewest who wrote (464829)	1/12/2012 11:52:23 PM
From: MJ	2 Recommendations Respond to of 793671

Does anyone here really believe there will be no tax increases? No

To: unclewest who wrote (464829)	1/13/2012 9:46:45 AM
From: Bill	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793671

Romney didn't raise taxes as governor here, he lowered them. We have two major state taxes here, an income tax and a sales tax. When Romney took over as governor, the state income tax was 5.6%. When he left, it was 5.3% The state sales tax was 5% when he started and it was 5% when he left. And taxes on cap gains and dividends didn't change. He raised some fees (not taxes) for isolated services that not everyone uses. Hunting licenses, marriage certificates, etc. Mostly little stuff. And he closed some obscure corp tax loopholes.

To: unclewest who wrote (464829)	1/13/2012 9:54:46 AM
From: Bearcatbob	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793671

Does anyone here really believe there will be no tax increases? Uncle - that is a hugely important question that our friends on the right are going to have to come to grips with. IMO, anyone who thinks all of the pain to come is going to come from cutting entitlements without some contribution of pain from others is simply delusional. Now - my preference is for revenue increases to come from loop hole elimination and not rate increases. Where I think the biggest shock is coming is for all of those who believed the Obama lie that people under $200k in income will not see tax increases. Of course this is one of the great Obama lies so readily believed by many who simply have no affinity for math. As Sutton said - you go where the money is - and that is in the middle class. There is a huge disconnect in this country from financial reality. Every politician who lies to the people to make them think someone else will have to pay is IMO a traitor. There is pain a plenty to come - and that pain will be shared by all. Bob