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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)1/13/2012 9:44:16 AM
From: locogringo4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
They are estimating 1.5 million signatures -

Are they estimating how many phony ones and triplicates?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)1/13/2012 9:54:10 AM
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What's the name of the fool in Washington that is in charge of our country? He must be a TOTAL FAILURE, doncha agree kenny_troll? No wonder you are talking about the guy in Wisconsin to cover up for this CLOWN.

The Worst Economic Recovery Since The Great Depression

The record of President Obama’s first three years in office is in, and nothing that happens now can go back and change that. What that record shows is that President Obama, with his throwback, old-fashioned, 1970s Keynesian economics, has put America through the worst recovery from a recession since the Great Depression.

forbes.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)1/13/2012 11:00:37 AM
From: longnshort5 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224729
 
"They are estimating 1.5 million signatures - about 3 times as many as necessary."

so that means there are about 100,000 real ones



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)1/13/2012 11:07:07 AM
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Who are they? Post your source. The official party line is as follows:

Menomonee Falls Patch:

But Democrats made it clear Wednesday that no more updates were coming until Jan. 17

"Anyone who sees numbers before that date can rest assured that they are not viewing accurate numbers," the party said in a statement. "Various blogs and other outlets have, in the course of their reporting, received erroneous information that they believe has been leaked to them.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)1/13/2012 12:08:43 PM
From: lorne5 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
Nearly 1 Million Workers Vanished Under Obama
By JOHN MERLINE, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Posted 01/12/2012
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Initial jobless claims unexpectedly jumped by 24,000 last week to 399,000 as more workers lost their jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday. At the same time, the economy continues to lose workers.

In the 30 months since the recession officially ended, nearly 1 million people have dropped out of the labor force — they aren't working, and they aren't looking — according to data from Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the past two months, the labor force shrank by 170,000.

This is virtually unprecedented in past economic recoveries, at least since the BLS has kept detailed records. In the past nine recoveries, the labor force had climbed an average 3.5 million by this point, according to an IBD analysis of the BLS data.

"Given weak job prospects, many would-be workers dropped out of (or never entered) the labor force," noted Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute in her analysis of the BLS jobs report issued last Friday. "That reduces the measured unemployment rate but does not represent real improvement."

According to the BLS, the "labor force participation rate" — the ratio of the number of people either working or looking for work compared with the entire working-age population — is now 64%, down from 65.7% when the recession ended in June 2009. That's the lowest level since women began entering the workforce in far greater numbers several decades ago.

If you adjust for this drop, the unemployment rate would be close to 11%, instead of the official 8.5%.

Long-Term Economic Impact

Not only does the shrunken labor force mask the real size of the unemployment problem in the country — since only those actively looking for work are counted as unemployed — it likely means that economic growth will be subpar going forward.

"The fall in the labor force participation rate leads us to mark down the long-term potential output growth path of the American economy," University of California-Berkeley economist Brad DeLong wrote on his blog last month. "It is harder to pull people into employment if they are out of the labor force than if they are in the labor force and unemployed."

The weak job market has also helped depress wages. Real median annual household income has dropped 5.1% since the recession ended, more than the 3.2% decline during the recession itself — according to a new Sentier Research report.

The smaller labor force is just one of the problems with the current unemployment number. The other is that the jobs being created aren't keeping pace with population growth. Since June 2009, the economy has added 1.4 million jobs, which is below the more than 2 million needed to keep up with population growth and far below the gains experienced at the same point in the previous 10 recoveries — which saw job gains average more than 4 million.

Historic Jobs Recession

Payrolls are still 6.1 million below their January 2008 peak. After January, the current jobs recession will be the longest since the Great Depression.

The Economic Policy Institute calculates that when you add the number of jobs lost in the recession and the growth in the working age population over the past few years, the "jobs deficit," as EPI calls it, "remains well over 10 million."

There's also the problem of people who want full-time work not being able to find it. The BLS offers a different unemployment measure that counts not only those currently looking for a job, but those who've given up looking, as well as those who are underemployed because of the soft job market.

That measure has unemployment at a whopping 15.2%.

The latest IBD/TIPP poll suggests the jobless picture might be even worse than this. The poll, taken in the first week of January, found that more than 22% of those surveyed are looking for full-time work, and almost 27% of households report having at least one person looking for a job.

What caused so many workers to drop out of the labor force over the past two-and-a-half years?

One possible explanation is demographics. As more baby boomers hit retirement age, the share of adults working goes down. Yet the labor force had been climbing until Obama took office. In fact, it peaked in May 2009, the month before the recession officially ended.

The other explanation is simply that many of these workers have given up looking, taken early retirement or are relying on government help to keep them afloat.

First Trust Advisors economists Brian Wesbury and Robert Stein argue that labor force concerns are overblown. The latest jobs report, they say, was the best since the economic recovery started. "Let's not make up reasons to be disappointed when the numbers are getting a little bit better every month," they wrote in a Monday dispatch.

Still, even with the recent uptick in job growth, the jobs picture remains worse than meets the eye.




To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)1/13/2012 3:39:46 PM
From: longnshort4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
We need James O'Keefe to get to the bottom of this voter fraud in Wisc



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)1/14/2012 3:39:16 PM
From: tonto2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
Kenneth, the first major Walker event is scheduled for January 21. A great list of speakers are scheduled to speak and a large crowd is expected!



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)1/17/2012 12:55:08 PM
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Republican faithful gear up to defend Walker

Kristyna Wentz-Graff
Cathy Waller, executive director of the Republican Party of Waukesha County, works with field director Ethan Schuh on Friday to prepare a training area at party headquarters in Waukesha. The office is open months earlier than usual because of the recall effort against Gov. Scott Walker.

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Republican Party volunteer Ann Strakulski of Pewaukee works the desk at Waukesha headquarters, while field director Ethan Schuh takes a call Friday.
Election 2012

Complete coverage of the 2012 spring and fall elections as well as updates on the ongoing recall efforts.

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Waukesha - Martha Ryan puts in 10 hours a week to support Gov. Scott Walker.

She works the front desk at the Waukesha County Republican Party headquarters, answering phones, greeting visitors, and, when they're in stock, handing out lawn signs that say, "Stand with Walker."

Ryan also does a lot of listening.

"People want to vent their frustration," she said. "I tell them, they're preaching to the choir here."

Mainly sidelined for two months as Walker's opponents gathered hundreds of thousands of signatures in hopes of triggering a recall election, the Republican base now appears poised to demonstrate its support for the governor.

On Tuesday in Madison, recall petitions will be filed against Walker, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch and four Republican state senators.

Signatures were gathered by Democrats, labor groups and a grass-roots organization called United Wisconsin. They need 540,208 valid signatures to trigger recall elections against Walker and Kleefisch and lesser amounts to force elections against the four state sena tors, including Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau).

Republicans say they're ready to scour the signatures to make sure they're up to snuff. More than 5,000 people have volunteered for the verification effort through a website, a Republican Party spokesman said, while hundreds of others have signed up at county GOP headquarters. Verification will begin once the petitions are made available by the state Government Accountability Board.

"We are putting together this comprehensive statewide effort to assure that Wisconsin electors are not disenfranchised," said Ben Sparks, a GOP spokesman. "This is in response to the repeated allegations of fraud that have permeated this process from day one."

Democrats say, bring it on.

"The Republican narrative that there are vast numbers of fraudulent petitions is a fiction designed to demean the people of Wisconsin who have voiced their opposition to Scott Walker, as well as rig the clock in Walker's favor by creating delay after delay after delay," said Graeme Zielinski, the Democratic Party spokesman. "Scott Walker himself has said this election is inevitable, so just what the Republicans and tea party are doing with these 'verification' efforts defies understanding."

Local Republican leaders say their base is fired up.

Jim Geldreich, Washington County GOP chair, said enthusiasm is strong and volunteer sign-up for the recall verification is "off the charts."

David Karst, Milwaukee County GOP chair, said volunteers are determined to keep Walker in office.

"We had an election (in 2010)," Karst said. "Their voice was heard. Now, we have to go ahead and confirm that vote again. We're in constant campaign mode. The opposition just won't let it go."

Walker supporters are even going out on their own to back the governor, some with homemade baseball caps and signs.

An idea that was triggered among Facebook friends has morphed into a planned pro-Walker rally for Saturday from 1 to 4 p.m. at Hart Park in Wauwatosa. Among the scheduled speakers, three Republican candidates for the U.S. Senate: former Gov. Tommy Thompson, former U.S. Rep. Mark Neumann and Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald of Horicon.

Two of the rally's organizers, Paris Procopis and Noelle Lorraine, said the event just evolved over the last few weeks with volunteers pooling resources to get the thing off the ground.

"No one in their right mind will rent the park in the winter, but we feel so passionate about this," Procopis said.

"Effectively, our democracy is in jeopardy if they succeed in removing Walker. It sets the precedent that anytime you don't like someone, you can remove them from office. It will prevent people from being bold," added Procopis, a Republican activist who fell eight signatures short of qualifying for the ballot in 2010 to run against Rep. David Cullen (D-Milwaukee).

The energy to back Walker can now be seen most vividly in Wisconsin's Republican stronghold, Waukesha County. Pro-Walker yard signs are popping up even though a recall election might not take place until summer.

There's also a lot of activity at the county's GOP campaign headquarters, which normally doesn't open until July of a big election year. Volunteers are on the phone contacting voters. Visitors want yard signs, but they're often on back order.

"The passion is going to skyrocket to keep Scott Walker in office," said Keith Best, a member of the Waukesha GOP executive committee.

Cathy Waller, the Waukesha GOP executive director, said new volunteers are signing up every day and energy is high.

"I think it is way beyond what I've seen before," she said of the volunteer activity. "A lot of new folks, new faces."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (121687)2/1/2012 11:28:14 AM
From: tonto4 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224729
 
Signatures fall way short of your estimate...Governor Walker grateful,

Walker was undaunted by the recall effort, CNN affiliate WTMJ reported.

"The optimist in me looks at that and says: the overwhelming majority of the people in the state chose not to sign that and I earned the trust of the majority the last time. My hope is I will earn their trust again," he said.

During the last election which included stops by Obama campaigning for him the vote totals were
Republican Scott Walker 1,128,941 52.29% +6.93%
Democratic Tom Barrett 1,004,303 46.52%

The democrats failed to get as many signatures after an extremely aggressive and long campaign and came in with 500,000 less signatures than you stated were to be...a huge disappointment for the unions. Many teachers were "forced" to sign the petitions even though they did not want to...they knew their work environment would be terrible if they did not go along with the arm twisting.