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To: Paul Engel who wrote (26091)	11/22/1997 1:23:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Respond to of 1583492

I can't think of a single application for which Java-based solutions aren't being actively developed. It's only two-something, and we have never, ever, seen a technology gain such broad industry and development community support. It's simply a better alternative to the warmed-over DOS technology being offered by Micosoft. Now that ISO has decided Sun can shepard the development of Java into an international standard, there is nothing stopping this environment from replacing Windows, C++ and Visual Basic as the primary client software platform. AFA as your assinine request to list the current applications that are available, perhaps you could do the same for Visual Basic. I will keep us all entertained while we wait. A tiny fraction of what's being developed in a vast array of application spaces: Sun sun.com IBM ibm.com Lotus esuite.lotus.com Computer Associates cai.com Marimba marimba.com marimba.com Apple applejava.apple.com Dialogic dialogic.com Applix applix.com applix.com Macromedia macromedia.com Symantec symantec.com Borland borland.com

To: Paul Engel who wrote (26091)	11/22/1997 1:32:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Respond to of 1583492

Aside from serving a stark reminder that Java ignorance is as wide spread as Java hype, you have wasted your time trying to lecture me on Java. I must say that I find mainstream and trade press reviews of Java have only just started to resolve a clear picture of Java; so you are not alone in the fog, watch out for that frog.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (26091)	11/22/1997 4:02:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Respond to of 1583492

BTW... sybase.com

To: Paul Engel who wrote (26091)	11/22/1997 4:52:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Respond to of 1583492

Paul, your lack of awareness isn't the criteria by which Java applications are measured. There are still those in the hype phase which started about a year or so ago; then there are those who are maybe a notch above that: those who think they are being clever by calling attention to Java hype; the final group are those who see both groups for what they are and don't let either cloud their vision. Note there is no mention of the inept Corel on page: zdnet.com

To: Paul Engel who wrote (26091)	11/22/1997 12:27:00 PM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583492

AMD isn't washed-up yet, they're just dead in the water and bobbing close to shore. Ignoring the Java tidal wave will be the final blow; hopefully they have more sense that that.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (26091)	11/22/1997 3:38:00 PM
From: James Yu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583492

Paul, <As I said, please list the current applications that are available> Here is a list from Resellers News of "business applications being built with Java." Percent of resellers citing each choice. Aplications, September of 1997, Three-Months Average ------------------------------------------------------- ...........Database: 22%, 21% ...Customer Service: 21%, 18% ....Marketing/Sales: 16%, 16% ...General Business: 14%, 17% Electronic Commerce: 12%, 12% .Finance/Accounting: 8%, 6% ......Manufacturing: 6%, 4% ...Human Resouerces: 3%, 5% ..............other: 4%, 4% ....Do Not Use Java: 50% 49% ------------------------------------------------------------ Note:Due to multiple response, numbers do not add up to 100% Base=189 responding resellers, 550 respondents for three-months Source:CRN Best wishes James