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To: koan who wrote (7062)	1/19/2012 12:27:00 AM
From: TimF	3 Recommendations Respond to of 85487

The military industrial complex is comprised of large corporations like Haliburton, Bechtel, flour, Lockheed, etc. They buy presidents and congresspeple with huge campaign contribtions, who then borrow money to hire them to do stuff. That has nothing whatsoever to do with big government. You contradict yourself. Contributions to government to get government to hand out money, are actions of government, and are motivated by government proclivity to hand out the money. OK that's "government", not "big government", but if government was small, the military part of it would be smaller (even if its portion of the government increased), so you couldn't have a big military-industrial complex. Bush junior started the war in Iraq hoping to get their oil. False Teh fed gave them 7.7 trillion! More big government. just big power giving our money to corporate power, who gives some of it back to big power! That big power is government. It is all about power and money and nothing about big government Power of the government (whether or not its exercised on behalf of corporations), money grabed through government power (whether or not its given to corporations). not at them stealing you blind. Its the government that's stealing (even in cases when it is stealing in order to give the money to its favored corporations). Small government means less stealing, both in general, and specifically less stealing for corporations.

To: koan who wrote (7062)	1/19/2012 8:29:24 AM
From: Little Joe	3 Recommendations Respond to of 85487

Your argument ignores the fact that big government means government controls more of our lives and regulates more. It is in the rational self-interest of those being regulated to try to influence the regulators and this is part of the reason there is so much corruption in politics. This is why the founders wanted a limited and restricted government. <The military industrial complex is comprised of large corporations like Haliburton, Bechtel, flour, Lockheed, etc. They buy presidents and congresspeple with huge campaign contribtions, who then borrow money to hire them to do stuff. That has nothing whatsoever to do with big government.> The government is part of the military industrial complex. <E.g. Bush junior started the war in Iraq hoping to get their oil. He doubled the deficiit from 5 to 10 trillion. He borrowed a bunch of it from China ad the rest from our grand kids. > I agree but you only seem to see the sins of Republicans. The fact is when it comes to spending the Dems are Bush on steroids. <And the there are the big banks that went broke and Bush/Obama gave trillions to recue them. Teh fed gave them 7.7 trillion!!!!!!> And you don't think big government had anything to do with that? lj