To: longnshort who wrote (20303 ) 1/27/2012 9:09:56 PM From: Solon Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300 I already gave you the chart and several reference articles, the last being here: Message 27909393 Do you even haver a CLUE about how Homo Sapiens evolved??? I really do not think you do. Do you know you cannot find ANY legitimate chart or diagram ANYWHERE that can get humans back to early primates (and thence to the beginnings of all terrestrial life) without going through APES???! What in Hell line did you think we went through????? Now you show me a chart which contradicts none of that and even (amusingly) shows "Southern Ape" directly below other hominins! And below Australopithecus we find other apes and monkeys. Still further back we find even more apes and monkeys! And right on your very diagram, we see in huge letters the word "ORANGUTAN"! Sorry fella, but you just can't get back to the early primates without going through the APES! "Regardless of when or how traits arose, bipedalism is the diagnostic criterion for the evolutionary departure of the human tribe from apes." Encyclopedia Britannica. Oh, shit! What does Britannica know!? Here are some more charts for you in case you still don't get it! enchantedlearning.com "Apes are Old World anthropoid mammals, more specifically a clade of tailless catarrhine primates, belonging to the biological superfamily Hominoidea. The apes are native to Africa and South-east Asia. Apes are the world's largest primates; the orangutan, an ape, is the world's largest living arboreal animal." en.wikipedia.org Another GREAT APE (the Chimp) shares almost 100% of human DNA. Now quit bothering me with your gratuitous, contrived and useless irrelevancies. If you are trying to win a Phoney Award, you will need to line up behind the two front runners. You know who they are... Now I am going to sit down to a thick and juicy steak. I don't much need my wisdom grinders anymore, but I have them, boys!