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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (180818)	1/31/2012 8:39:33 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541735

Wiki says Tillich wrestled with the existential issues from a Christian theologian's perspective. Not that he was an Christian Existentialist per se. Good point but doesn't take us anywhere. Tillich and Karl Barth were the preeminent protestant theologians in the years roughly from somewhere either just before WWII or just after to well after their deaths. You had to read them in seminary, whatever the seminary, even if just to understand how to argue against them. Barth was much more the traditionalist, Tillich the innovator.

To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (180818)	1/31/2012 11:08:46 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541735

I have an adware virus that is driving me nuts and I cannot get google. Boy do I feel lost-lol. Will go see me computer guru tomorrow. Running a Norton scan now. Existentialism has many interpretations as it is such an abstract idea. In fact, the new colloquial use of the word means simply "real" e.g. Iran is an existential threat to Israel. But that is not what Sartre was getting at-lol. I follow Sartre's definition which means nothing is real except ones own experience. I guess there could be a spiritual existentialism. Really never thought about it like that though. The existentialists had a huge impact on me because I was coming from an ignorant Christian ghetto, to trying to just understaand what the big thinkers were getting at. Man I had no idea why Plato was important as a kid. And it took me years to understand him. The Stranger by Camus really had a huge impact on me and basically I was with Sartre but without the nilihism. So in a way I have been blind to my own thinking because I believe in kindness as a universal truth and Sartre would not have liked that-lol. So I guess I need to cut Kierkegaard some slack-lol. Still, I do feel existentialism cannot be brewed without knowledge of evolution and a modern day understanding of religion i.e. there is not one shred of proof or even logic; and evolution and science does provide all the answers religion used to answer. Even kindness.