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To: JohnM who wrote (180827)	2/1/2012 12:23:40 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541703

Ahh yes Nietzsche and the "Death of God" and all that it implies (if I'm not mixing up my philosophers). Hence, Epicure's citing Tillich as the Christian's response to this. I can't understand Koan just chucking all that out the window. Obviously, no spiritual existence, in the traditional sense, can be contemplated in his post-modern (?) philosophical universe, but Tillich seems to struggle so mightily with the question of the foundations of our being that I would think that the post-modernists would have to wrestle just as hard to dismiss his premises. Or maybe it no longer works that way. Anyway, suddenly I'm back in college again with the late night bull sessions (if ones two best friends are philosophy majors) and competing world ideologies-- thanks everyone for the memories.

To: JohnM who wrote (180827)	2/1/2012 12:34:10 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541703

<< think the better watershed is Nietzsche. In philosophy, much is pre and post N. Then the question becomes just how Kierkegaard is read as in the same tradition as Nietzsche. Obviously, if the criteria is belief in some sort of supernatural being and since you can read Kierkegaard as having such a belief, that makes the two incompatible. But a lot of philosophy did not do so, including at least Sartre and Heidegger. I am not sure what you are saying here? Sartre was a hard core athiest. Read his book Nausea. Nietzsche had a huge impact on my thinking he was so smart, but I do not remember any references to Kierkegaard. Not saying there were none. A lot of Nietzche was built on the works of the ancient Greeks. Basically, as you well know, it is everyone building on top of everyone else. But where the big divide is, is what people ultimately believe. I like to think I am the reality based community; and that makes me scared to death of Romney.