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To: Joseph Silent who wrote (28860)	2/2/2012 10:11:07 AM
From: Chip McVickar	Respond to of 223336

Joseph... Well..., you seem to be into something interesting about market habits. It is fascinating, plus it interacts with our mathematical skills. You might like this website if you haven't already discovered Wolfram. mathworld.wolfram.com Also, I got very much involved with Bill Williams whose original book Trading Chaos is a study on understanding fractals and chaos or non linear dynamics and the place fractal geometry offers to market students. It opens with this statement: Unless we change our direction, we are most likely to end up where we are headed. Chinese Proverb Chip

To: Joseph Silent who wrote (28860)	2/2/2012 1:55:57 PM
From: Kirk ©	Respond to of 223336

"But suppose you look at the market as a beast that has some long term goal in mind, and wants to get there without you knowing the plan or the goal, then the picture changes." I've been saying this for ages. The goal is to get as much $ into the hands of the smart from the masses as possible. It won't happen unless there is a very nice carrot that enough people get to experience and rave about the tasty treat they got... to give hope to the masses... so... they get AT&T broken up and the market surges for 15 years or so of internet/telecom bubble as all sorts of money pours into great ideas that boom and bust... making tons of money for those who get in early and cash out all the way to the top... That ended with the telecom/internet bust under Clinton just as Bush 2 took over. Then they made a housing boom where you could get rich buying land in Florida over the internet. The day I learned of that, I felt the top was in.... Think how much money congress critters got from Fannie and Freddie, World Savings founding family sold out to Wachovia at the very top after giving loans to anyone who walked into a branch who cold fog a glass.... contractors made tons building over priced homes on cow pastures to sell to people too dumb to understand "replacement cost" who were buying only because housing was going up and they could get a loan that they couldn't afford for a home they couldn't afford without all the fraud helping them along... Now we got people running bond funds charging fees as money pours into bonds as the best performing asset class with all the help of the Fed... while companies that actually pay a growing dividend higher than the rate of a 10 year treasury sell at silly low levels.... Never get rich chasing trends... Cramer, king of "buy what's working", lost nearly 10% on his Action Alerts Plus portfolio last year but he probably made millions selling subscriptions to people too stupid to ask how he does vs an index fund... Think like a criminal and tag along legally for the ride Just look at Netflix and who the largest insider seller is. He's listed almost every week in the paper yet money poured int the stock. I believe Ken Lay did the same with Enron all the way up.